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christina
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 Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: Purifies with fire. |
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Purifies with fire.
In the new testement Jesus uses the word fire alot he comes baptizing with fire, he brings division and fire to the earth. He is Gods wrath for the people who sin. Jesus is the gate he will bring us home safely although the bible says we must all go through the fire to be purified. The people that truely belong to God will come out unharmed, But the rest that dont belong to God will burn!
This reminds me alot of when God saved The people from egypt. When he took us all out of slavery.
But here we are again a slave, but now to sin because it is sins land we live in. But i believe God will free us excactly the way he did from egypt but instead of walking through water we will walk through fire. the walls around us will be fire but we will be unharmed.
When Pharaoh the king of Egypt tried to stop Isreal from leaving this is what happend.
| Quote: | 10As Pharaoh and his army approached, the people of Israel could see them in the distance, marching toward them. The people began to panic, and they cried out to the LORD for help.
11Then they turned against Moses and complained, "Why did you bring us out here to die in the wilderness? Weren't there enough graves for us in Egypt? Why did you make us leave? 12Didn't we tell you to leave us alone while we were still in Egypt? Our Egyptian slavery was far better than dying out here in the wilderness!"
13But Moses told the people, "Don't be afraid. Just stand where you are and watch the LORD rescue you. The Egyptians that you see today will never be seen again. 14The LORD himself will fight for you. You won't have to lift a finger in your defense!"
Escape through the Red Sea
15Then the LORD said to Moses, "Why are you crying out to me? Tell the people to get moving! 16Use your shepherd's staff--hold it out over the water, and a path will open up before you through the sea. Then all the people of Israel will walk through on dry ground. 17Yet I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they will follow the Israelites into the sea. Then I will receive great glory at the expense of Pharaoh and his armies, chariots, and charioteers. 18When I am finished with Pharaoh and his army, all Egypt will know that I am the LORD!"
19Then the angel of God, who had been leading the people of Israel, moved to a position behind them, and the pillar of cloud also moved around behind them. 20The cloud settled between the Israelite and Egyptian camps. As night came, the pillar of cloud turned into a pillar of fire, lighting the Israelite camp. But the cloud became darkness to the Egyptians, and they couldn't find the Israelites.
21Then Moses raised his hand over the sea, and the LORD opened up a path through the water with a strong east wind. The wind blew all that night, turning the seabed into dry land. 22So the people of Israel walked through the sea on dry ground, with walls of water on each side! 23Then the Egyptians--all of Pharaoh's horses, chariots, and charioteers--followed them across the bottom of the sea. 24But early in the morning, the LORD looked down on the Egyptian army from the pillar of fire and cloud, and he threw them into confusion. 25Their chariot wheels began to come off, making their chariots impossible to drive. "Let's get out of here!" the Egyptians shouted. "The LORD is fighting for Israel against us!"
26When all the Israelites were on the other side, the LORD said to Moses, "Raise your hand over the sea again. Then the waters will rush back over the Egyptian chariots and charioteers." 27So as the sun began to rise, Moses raised his hand over the sea. The water roared back into its usual place, and the LORD swept the terrified Egyptians into the surging currents. 28The waters covered all the chariots and charioteers--the entire army of Pharaoh. Of all the Egyptians who had chased the Israelites into the sea, not a single one survived.
29The people of Israel had walked through the middle of the sea on dry land, as the water stood up like a wall on both sides. 30This was how the LORD rescued Israel from the Egyptians that day. And the Israelites could see the bodies of the Egyptians washed up on the shore. 31When the people of Israel saw the mighty power that the LORD had displayed against the Egyptians, they feared the LORD and put their faith in him and his servant Moses. |
That is how I believe we will get across the fire,
we are walking that path now. |
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Star
King of the Jungle
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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Location: Just moved to south Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I could definately see this, though I havent got all the details mapped out heres a verse that goes with that line of thought.
Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
Supposing the "Refiners Fire"? Trying our faith which is more precious then gold which perishes.
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Star
King of the Jungle
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Location: Just moved to south Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Here Christina, Heres some great verses that can help pull this together for you even more. As Christ divided the people as Truth comes and brings a Sword or as Moses divides the waters (People) so also does He divide the flames of fire. Its in here somewheres, I just pulled some fire references from one of my documents (which are a complete mess) but I see what your seeing.
Dan 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have NO HURT; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
(When we walk through the fire?)
Psalm 6:27 Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? This answer is YES
Dan 3:26 Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
Dan 3:27 saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
Fire that does not Physically burn
Exodus 3:2 the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.
Exodus 24:17 And the SIGHT of the glory of the LORD WAS LIKE devouring FIRE on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
***Numbers 31:23 Every thing THAT MAY ABIDE IN THE FIRE, YE SHALL MAKE IT GO THROUGH THE FIRE, and IT SHALL BE CLEAN: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water.
Duet 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming FIRE, [even] a jealous God.
Deut 4:33 Did [ever] people hear the voice of God speaking out of the MIDST OF THE FIRE, as thou hast heard, and live?
***Psalm 29:7 The voice of the LORD divideth the flames of fire. (As He divideth the waters)
They were afraid because of the fire here
Duet 5:5 afraid by reason of the fire
Duet 5:24 heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
This is what they thought about the fire
Duet 5:25 Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us
2Sam 22:9 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. (Smoke are people, actually self righteous people I left a verse above showing it)
1Kings 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; [but] the LORD [was] not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
The voice of the Lord is likened to the voice of many waters (people) these are seen also as his servents (flames of fire) (hailstones which are cold to Him and coals of fire believers Hot)
Psalm 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail [stones] and coals of fire.
Psalm 39:3 My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: [then] spake I with my tongue
Psalm 57:4 My soul [is] among lions: [and] I LIE AMONG THEM THAT ARE SET ON FIRE
Going through the fire
Psalm 66:12 Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads; WE WENT THROUGH THE FIRE and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy [place].
Psalm 68:2 As smoke is driven away, [so] drive [them] away: as wax melteth before the fire, [so] let the wicked perish at the PRECENCE of God.
Psalm 79:5 How long, LORD? wilt thou be angry for ever? shall thy jealousy burn like fire?
Psalm 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
Psalm 148:8 Fire, and hail; snow, and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word
Prov An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips [there is] as a burning fire. (Tongue is a fire in James)
Isaiah 10:17 And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;
Isaiah 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [thereof is] heavy: his LIPS are full of indignation, and his TONGUE as a devouring fire:
Isaiah 31:9 saith the LORD, whose fire [is] in Zion, and his furnace in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 33:11 your breath, [as] fire, shall devour you
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Heres someone totally unaware that Hes set on fire (Gods fury on Him) Here He’s even BURNED and doesn’t know it)
Isaiah 42:25 Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, YET HE KNEW IT NOT; and it BURNED HIM, yet he laid [it] not to heart.
Isaiah 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I [will be] with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
Isaiah 64:2 As [when] the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy NAME KNOWNn to thine adversaries, [that] the nations may tremble at thy presence!
***Isaiah 65:5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. THESE [are] a smoke in my nose, a FIRE that burneth all the day. (As He divided the waters that are peoples, His voice also divideth the “flames of fire”
Isaiah 66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Isaiah 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
Jerm 5:14 Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
Jerm 23:29 [Is] not my WORD like as a FIRE? saith the LORD
Lam 1:13From above hath he sent FIRE into my bones
Ezek 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire; [for] thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel.
Ezekiel 22:20 As] they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt [it]; so will I gather [you] in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave [you there], and melt you.
Ezekiel 22:21 Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst thereof.
Ezek 24:12 She hath wearied [herself] with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her SCUM [shall be] in the fire.
Dan 3:24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, [and] spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?
Dan 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have NO HURT; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
Dan 3:26 Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
Dan 3:27 saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
Hosea 7:6 For they have made ready their heart like an oven, whiles they lie in wait: their baker sleepeth all the night; in the morning it burneth as a flaming fire.
Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land [is] as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joel 2:5 like the noise of a flame of fire
Amos 5:6 Seek the LORD, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph
Oba 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken [it].
God hates Esau He is the carnal man none left in the house of Esau
Zech 2:5 I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.
Zech 3:2 [is] not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Zech 11:1 Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour thy cedars.
Zech 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.
Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he [is] like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Mat 3:12 but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Luke 9:54 wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? Jesus told them they knew not what Spirit they were of saying something like this.
1Corinth 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
James 3:6 And the tongue [is] a fire, (out of the overflow of the HEART the mouth speaks, but this tongue is seen as set on fire by hell itself)
1Peter 1:7 tried with fire
2Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Peter 3:12 wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Jude 1:7 suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Rev 1:14 and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;
Rev 9:17 and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Rev 11:5 fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire
Rev 18:18 and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong [is] the Lord God who judgeth her.
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Smoke
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:53 am Post subject: |
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that sure is a LOT of fire. there were two swords of fire at the entrance to eden & adam & eve could not get back in there.
and to think, so many will never know this Word is ALIVE!
Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
The Word is like a fire.
I like the burning bush to Moses & the pillar of fire by night & cloud by day when they escape Egypt. That just always amazes me. |
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Star
King of the Jungle
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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Location: Just moved to south Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I love the "cloud" part Smoke,  
Remember Jesus going up in a "cloud" by day before their eyes until He was hid from their sight?
Wonder where He went?
He went "before" them, and now they stand "before Him" (So wheres His position if the glory of the Lord is their REAR gaurd?) 
You will hear a voice BEHIND YOU saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it"
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