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Perry5 Goldfish
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 57 Location: Houston
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:07 am Post subject: (Heaven,hell and the lake of fire.) |
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Do you know where heaven is?
Do you know where hell is?
Do you know where hell is?
if i did not know where i was going would you follow me???
The bible sayes that there are no animals in heaven and so how is it that Jesus will return from heaven on a white horse???
We are ofcourse reading the writings of a people who still believed that if thay ventured to far out into the sea thay would fall of a mythical waterfall into infinity. _________________ (New kid on the block just waiving a hand.) |
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RevJP Moderator

Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7003 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Perry, your logic is indisputable. You have convinced me. I should have realized that because I do not know a thing, that thing must be untrue or non-existent. Shame on me for believing in anything beyond my understanding or power to control  _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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Van King Kong
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2646 Location: San Clemente, California
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:51 am Post subject: |
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I think the Bible is fairly silent on the subject of animals in Heaven. Verses like Ecclesiastes 3:21 say only God knows if animal spirits return to earth. And clearly, God who puts streams and trees in heaven could put whatever gives us joy beyond our expectations. So our highest concern should be for our salvation and those (people) that we love including our neighbors.
The horse we see in the text might be a literal horse or it might be a symbol for war because horses are frequently associated with war in the Bible. |
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Perry5 Goldfish
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 57 Location: Houston
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Van wrote: | I think the Bible is fairly silent on the subject of animals in Heaven. Verses like Ecclesiastes 3:21 say only God knows if animal spirits return to earth. And clearly, God who puts streams and trees in heaven could put whatever gives us joy beyond our expectations. So our highest concern should be for our salvation and those (people) that we love including our neighbors.
The horse we see in the text might be a literal horse or it might be a symbol for war because horses are frequently associated with war in the Bible. |
The horse was i believe simply a metaphore for current day, tranportation the likes of which the people of that time could not enagin. _________________ (New kid on the block just waiving a hand.) |
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Holywind Goldfish

Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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No animals in heaven? Try checking right next to the throne of God. Four BEASTS full of eyes within. One has the face or appearance of an EAGLE, one a CALF, one a LION, the other a MAN. Three out of Four chances God likes animals more than men
I can't solidly prove this from scripture, but those EYES are connected to EVERY EYE on earth. The LIONS EYES to all the "wild beast" the CALF'S EYES to all "domestic beast" the EAGLE'S EYES to all "flying beast" and the MAN'S EYES to the beast we call MANKIND.
Somewhere in the Pentatuch it says the "beast" shall bear witness against us. When mankind thinks they got away with something without a HUMAN BEING seeing it, it definately got recorded through the eyes of some other BEAST.
God may not have spent much time writing about all the animals he "might" have in heaven but there are some hints. In the kingdom of Christ, the LION shall eat grass like the OX; and the LAMB shall lie down with the BEAR, and the BabE will play with the TARANTULA an ADDER. (I may have got some of those combinations turned around a bit and will be glad to clarify it to exactness if anyone requires it ). But there must be some importance to animals if God has them so close to himself around the throne. _________________ Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be afraid, rightly dividing (correctly parsing) the word of truth. |
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Perry5 Goldfish
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 57 Location: Houston
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Holywind wrote: | No animals in heaven? Try checking right next to the throne of God. Four BEASTS full of eyes within. One has the face or appearance of an EAGLE, one a CALF, one a LION, the other a MAN. Three out of Four chances God likes animals more than men
I can't solidly prove this from scripture, but those EYES are connected to EVERY EYE on earth. The LIONS EYES to all the "wild beast" the CALF'S EYES to all "domestic beast" the EAGLE'S EYES to all "flying beast" and the MAN'S EYES to the beast we call MANKIND.
Somewhere in the Pentatuch it says the "beast" shall bear witness against us. When mankind thinks they got away with something without a HUMAN BEING seeing it, it definately got recorded through the eyes of some other BEAST.
I have never read any of your post,but it shure sounds like ancient pagan double talk.
God may not have spent much time writing about all the animals he "might" have in heaven but there are some hints. In the kingdom of Christ, the LION shall eat grass like the OX; and the LAMB shall lie down with the BEAR, and the BabE will play with the TARANTULA an ADDER. (I may have got some of those combinations turned around a bit and will be glad to clarify it to exactness if anyone requires it ). But there must be some importance to animals if God has them so close to himself around the throne. |
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Van King Kong
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2646 Location: San Clemente, California
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Holywind, I think you may be referring in part to Isaiah 66:25 |
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