Ignorance will Kill You !

Bridget · Rattlesnake Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 443

If these people are like sponges waiting for their master to completely fill it, forgive me but why do they argue and wiggle and call names instead of learning and doing the research to see if what is being said is correct.
It's not so much the arguing that bothers me, it's the incorrect translation of Bible verses.

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Silver Surfer · Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:29 am Post subject:

"Condemnation without investigation, is the true height of ignorance".
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pato · Kitten Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 130

Hi

Pete wrote:
[/quote]“End” in Greek is “telos.” “The conclusion of an act, termination, result, the completion of a definite point or goal.” This means that Christ fulfilled all the law in our stead, so that we are no longer under the law, but grace (unmerited pardon). The law had a beginning and a completion through Jesus Christ.[quote]

You know when I read this I see something different. I see Christ being the end of the law:- the conclusion, completion of a goal, the result:- meaning (to me) that Christ is the result or goal (standard)of the law. The law will teach us and bring us to the standard of Christ. I think Christ fulfilled the law, not to abolish it for us, but to show us by his example how to live.
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Zathrus · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

And I think that by the "end of the law", Paul meant that Christ is the objective, the goal aimed at. The law was not an end to itself. Observance of the law is not an end unto itself. The true objective was to bring man to Christ so that he could be reconciled to God - something which the law cannot do.

Do you have Jesus Christ? Then you have the fulfillment, the objective.
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Pete · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject:

Galatians 2:16; "but since we know that a person is not made righteous through the works of the law but only through faith in Christ Jesus, we have believed in Christ Jesus in order that we might be made righteous by faith in Christ and not through works of the law; for by works of the law no person will be justified."

V.21;"I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness were through Law, then Christ died to no purpose." (Inductive Study NT)

Paul had to spend a lot of time fending off Jewish converts who plagued him by insisting that his gentile converts were obliged to observe Jewish law, and practices. He often referred to them as the "circumcision."

Silver Surfer · Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject:

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