Eternal Security

Nobby · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject:

SS, do you ever check your multiple quotes, to see if you got them posted right. As long as you have been here I would thought you would know how. Why don't you use the Preview to check to see if it's right before you Submit it?
Nobby

Hint - your leaving too many [quote]s in your post.

Silver Surfer · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Eternal Security

Nobby · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject:

SS, "LOOK" at your quotes! I'm getting tired of fixing them!
That's not my job! But it is yours! Confused or disgusted

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Silver Surfer · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject:

james · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:

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eleven · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:40 am Post subject:

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We hear Surfer preach so much about the fourth commandment (coupled with the idea that "if we break one, we break them all") that we're anxious to hear his interpretation of the third commandment ("taking the Lord's name in vain"), because the third commandment has nothing to do with swearing, but has everything to do with reflecting the character of Christ - and Surfer ignores the third commandment, as if it doesn't even exist.

WHAT DID CHRIST SAY ABOUT SABBATH?

It's also interesting to note that Surfer is a follower of Christ and uses Christ's example of observing Sabbath as our example. However, of all the times that Christ mentioned Sabbath, How many times did Jesus speak in a manner that would enforce Sabbath regulation?

AN INSTRUMENT OF OFFENSE

We're not knocking Sabbath, because we love observing it. But we are offended at Surfer's method of cramming it down everyone's throat. We are saddened by the fact that he uses something God gave us that was meant to be beautiful and a blessing to all and uses it instead as an instrument of offense.

TALKING THE TALK WITHOUT WALKING THE WALK

The twenty-first doctrine of his belief system speaks of "Christian Behavior" and says that "We are called to be a godly people who think, feel, and act in harmony with the principles of heaven. For the Spirit to recreate in us the character of our Lord, we involve ourselves only in those things which will produce Christ-like purity, health, and joy in our lives." And, it should add, in the lives of others, as we do influence others with our input and presence.

What's interesting to note is that Surfer wants to cram the Sabbath down everyone's throat, and yet, he does not want to reflect the character of Christ, as his twenty-first doctrine of belief states he should. This is what happens when we rely on man-made doctrines and not on the teaching of the holy Spirit.

WHO WE SHOULD MIMIC

A good place for all of us to start is to take a really, really hard look at how Jesus preached a message (such as Sabbath), and then, we should simply emulate His style. After all, it's difficult to go wrong if we follow Christ's example.

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eleven · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject:

Several things irritate me about this Saturday Sabbath story.

1) Even if Jesus did observe the Sabbath on Saturday, Paul made clear that Genitiles are not bound by Jewish law. And scripture tells us that Paul was "filled with the Holy Spirit", therefore, Gentiles are not restricted to Saturday. So who gave Paul that piece of wisdom?

But Silver ignores that.

2) The fact that Jesus celebrated the Sabbath on Saturday only "proves" that Jews started work on Sunday, worked for 6 days, then rested on Saturday.
But we don't live in those times. People today work different days and different shifts. If the argument is, we should do it the way Jesus did, then you better be wearing robes and sandals too, because I doubt Jesus back then worn Levi's and tennis shoes.

3) And this is the biggest one-
How dare anyone put down people who work on Saturdays as sinners, when they themselves depend on those people to be there if they need them?
Babies are born on Saturday.
People get into accidents on Saturday.
People take planes on Saturday.
People make phone calls on Saturday.
Truckers are delivering food and medicine on Saturday.
Toll bridge workers are there to keep bridges open on Saturday.
Houses got up in flames on Saturday.
Children drown in pools on Saturday.
Nursing home workers have to feed the elderly on Saturday.
Group home supervisors have to watch their clients on Saturday.
Soldiers are watching this country on Saturday.

But none of this matters. As long as Saturday Sabbath keepers have THEIR butts safe in worship on Saturday, the rest of us can go to hell.

Have mercy on them oh Lord,
for they know not what they say. Rolling Eyes

And I am SERIOUSLY praying for you!
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ChristianWoman1 · Labrador Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 300

well said 11 Very Happy

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