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golfjack
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 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Standing Firm on God's Word |
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The moment you wonder why God has not answered you, the moment you look around for some reasoon why He did not hear your prayer, or the moment you begin to accept that God did not want you to have what you prayed, you are defeated.
If God promises you something in His Word, or His Word tells you something belongs to you, He intends for you to have it. If God does not intend for you to have what His Word promises, then He is fooling you, and Hhe is a partner to trickery. But God is not a partner to trickery. He does not lie.
Regarding spiritual things, if people would just take a stand for what belongs to them like they do in the natural, it would solve a lot of difficulties. God's Word is a legal document. The New Testament is the will of God for us. God intends for us to have everything His Word says is ours. We should never lie down and play dead, so to speak, giving in to the devil.
If the Word of God promises you the things you are praying about, God is not going to suddenly change and say, No, you can't have it. So stand firm on God's Word and believe that you will see the answers to your Bible-based prayers.
The Apostle Paul plainly said, finally, my brethern, be strong in the Lord... ( Eph. 6:10).
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eleven
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Standing Firm on God's Word |
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| golfjack wrote: | The moment you wonder why God has not answered you, the moment you look around for some reasoon why He did not hear your prayer, or the moment you begin to accept that God did not want you to have what you prayed, you are defeated.
If God promises you something in His Word, or His Word tells you something belongs to you, He intends for you to have it. If God does not intend for you to have what His Word promises, then He is fooling you, and Hhe is a partner to trickery. But God is not a partner to trickery. He does not lie.
Regarding spiritual things, if people would just take a stand for what belongs to them like they do in the natural, it would solve a lot of difficulties. God's Word is a legal document. The New Testament is the will of God for us. God intends for us to have everything His Word says is ours. We should never lie down and play dead, so to speak, giving in to the devil.
If the Word of God promises you the things you are praying about, God is not going to suddenly change and say, No, you can't have it. So stand firm on God's Word and believe that you will see the answers to your Bible-based prayers.
The Apostle Paul plainly said, finally, my brethern, be strong in the Lord... ( Eph. 6:10).
Peace, Golfjack |
YEAH!!!! That's right.
But you overlooked something.
God made a covenant with us - a legal declaration.
Most people have no idea what is contained in this covenant.
What are the promises God made to us from the days of Abraham until Jesus?
Do you know? (meaning people in general)
The how can you possibly lay claim to the inheritance if you don't even know what God promised you?
My people suffer for lack of knowledge.
God said it, I didn't.
Come back here and tell me what God promised us.
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ragman13
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | | What are the promises God made to us from the days of Abraham until Jesus? |
11 you have left this question very open. Do you mean the promises made to Abraham that we benefit from?
| Quote: | | The Abrahamic Covenant may be subdivided into three divine promises: to give Abraham an heir and nation; to bestow the Promised Land upon this nation; and to enter into a saving relationship with anyone who places faith in Yahweh |
David J.A. Clines, The Theme of the Pentateuch, pg 26
| Quote: | | While promises one and two are unconditional and concern the Jewish community, the final promise is conditional, non-ethnic, and individual in nature, made between God and the believer. |
Kirk R. MacGregor, Christian Apologetics Journal. Vol. 6 #1, pg63
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golfjack
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: reply |
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As Gentiles, we receive the unsearchable riches of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We receive the riches of the blessings of Abraham, which know no measure and have no limit. We receive the riches of faith by which the treasures of heaven are made possible to each of us. We receive the riches of repentance through which each of us becomes a child of God. We receive the riches of His Love, joy, and eternal peace in the Holy Spirit. We receive the riches of salvation by grace through faith. We receive the riches of adoption and the riches of being heirs and joint heirs with Jesus Christ.
The riches that came to the Gentiles because the Jewish people stumbled over the identity of Jesus Christ are without limit and beyond our knowing.
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eleven
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | As Gentiles, we receive the unsearchable riches of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We receive the riches of the blessings of Abraham, which know no measure and have no limit. We receive the riches of faith by which the treasures of heaven are made possible to each of us. We receive the riches of repentance through which each of us becomes a child of God. We receive the riches of His Love, joy, and eternal peace in the Holy Spirit. We receive the riches of salvation by grace through faith. We receive the riches of adoption and the riches of being heirs and joint heirs with Jesus Christ.
The riches that came to the Gentiles because the Jewish people stumbled over the identity of Jesus Christ are without limit and beyond our knowing.
Peace, Golfjack |
Agreed. But for those less informed, can you be more specific?
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golfjack
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: reply |
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First of all, God has made an everlasting covenant with all born again Christians that is everlasting. God has made a covenant with the Jews that is everlasting. The covenant as we see in Hebrews made with us is even better with better promises. To be more specific, God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law, which the Book of Galations tells us. We have been reddeemed from the curse of poverty, sickness, and spiritual death. This means we can live in perfect health, and live in His riches and Glory. So many blessings, we cannot contain them. He made us the head and not the tail, which Deut. tells us. God wants us to be blessed from Above. We can prosper in our family, our friends,in our work, and in all areas of our lives. If we have a financial need, we can go to God, a God who is Able.
But, we must be careful that the devil doesn't steal our blessings. Once we realize our place in authority in Jesus, we can make the devil flee and live victorious lives.
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FFT
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| golfjack wrote: | | The moment you wonder why God has not answered you, the moment you look around for some reasoon why He did not hear your prayer, or the moment you begin to accept that God did not want you to have what you prayed, you are defeated. |
Doubt is the first step to wisdom.
Without doubt, one is nothing more than a machine. Or robot, if you will.
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eleven
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: |
To be more specific, God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law, which the Book of Galations tells us. We have been reddeemed from the curse of poverty, sickness, and spiritual death. This means we can live in perfect health, and live in His riches and Glory. So many blessings, we cannot contain them. Peace, Golfjack |
Ok, now how many "Christians" actually (beyond the shadow of a doubt) believe this?
See, this is where faith comes in.
God made us promises that cannot be disputed, yet as soon as trouble comes a prowling, people are having anxiety attacks, running for cover, begging God in tears............
It is finished! It's been signed in blood.
If we only had faith the size of a mustard seed, we could move mountains.
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eleven
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: |
Doubt is the first step to wisdom.
Without doubt, one is nothing more than a machine. Or robot, if you will. |
I agree with that.
What's interesting is, the churches usually teach that we are not to doubt God, that it is wrong.
That's not what the Bible teaches.
In every instance where people went to God in prayer, or went to Jesus with questions, something very dramatic followed shortly thereafter.
Doubt is only harmful if you keep it to yourself.
If you have a question, go ask the Master. That's what He's there for.
So many disappointed people make dumb statements like, well I guess it was God's will................
How do you know? Did you ask Him?
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james
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | | FFT wrote: |
Doubt is the first step to wisdom.
Without doubt, one is nothing more than a machine. Or robot, if you will. |
I agree with that.
What's interesting is, the churches usually teach that we are not to doubt God, that it is wrong.
That's not what the Bible teaches.
In every instance where people went to God in prayer, or went to Jesus with questions, something very dramatic followed shortly thereafter.
Doubt is only harmful if you keep it to yourself.
If you have a question, go ask the Master. That's what He's there for.
So many disappointed people make dumb statements like, well I guess it was God's will................
How do you know? Did you ask Him? |
Actually I doubt it...................................WOW I am getting wiser all ready.  |
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Evee
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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James, PLLLFFFF!!! I almost spit my orangeade out reading that. THANKS!!!!
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