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golfjack
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 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Spirtual death means separation from God |
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The moment adam sinned, he was separated from God. And when God came down in the cool of the day, as was His custom to walk and talk with Adam, and called, adam, where art thou? adam said, I hid myself, He was separated from God.
Man is now united with the devil. He is and outcast, an outlaw, driven from the garden with no legal ground of approach to God. He responds only to his new nature, or to his new master. Man is now a transgressor. He is more than a law-breaker and a sinner. Man is spiritually a child of the devil and he partakes of his father's nature.
This explains why mman cannot be saved by conduct. He has to be born again. If man were not a child of the devil, then he could just begin to put on the right kind of conduct, and he'd be all right. But even if he puts on right conduct, he's still a child of the devil, and will go to hell when he dies, to the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Man cannot stand in the presense of God as he is, because he has the nature of his father, the devil in him. If man is ever saved, he has to be saved by someone paying the penality for his sins, and by someone giving him a new nature.
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45degreeN
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Romans 8:31 | Quote: | 31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."[l] 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
If we love God this is a promise to us. Nothing can separate us for the love of God.
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golfjack
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: reply |
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All unbelievers are under a spiritural death sentence. My friend, why are you trying to complicate so much? The only remedy for the unbeliever is to accept Christ. How can one do this? Romans 10:9-10 tells us. Jesus has executed the plan of the Father. Our responsibility is to accept His plan by believing in our hearts and by the confession of our mouths that He is Our Lord and Savior. Pretty simple, Huh?
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Mattathias
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | | The only remedy for the unbeliever is to accept Christ. How can one do this? Romans 10:9-10 tells us. |
What is the relationship between Romans 10:9-10 and the parable of the sower? |
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golfjack
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: reply |
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The seed is the Word of God.
Peace, Golfjack |
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Mattathias
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | | The seed is the Word of God. |
Luke calls the seed "the word of God" (Luke 8:11). Matthew calls it the "word of the kingdom" (Matt. 13:19). Mark simply calls it "the word" (Mark 4:14).
Is there a relationship between this "word of God"/"word of the kingdom"/"word" and Romans 10:9-10? |
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Mattathias
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I think Romans 10:14 connects believing in Jesus with the parable of the sower.
| Quote: | | How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? (NASB) |
How will they believe in Jesus whom they have not heard speak? Before they can confess that Jesus is Lord they must hear the gospel that he preached, believe it and repent. |
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