Why does God hide?

Niall · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Why does God hide?

Any ideas without 3 pages of quoted scriptures Cool

Zathrus · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

This question is like one from our dear Adventist friends, making a large presupposition.

Who says God is hiding?

What do you need Him to show you?

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6661 Location: USA

God doesn't hide, He stands at the door and knocks. Seems to me that anyone that doesn't see Him simply isn't opening the door.

Niall · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:05 am Post subject:

Niall · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:06 am Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:43 am Post subject:

Hi Niall,

Well, we know God is Spirit. And we know God's spirit manifests itself by the fruits it bares in his children. And Jesus says, if you have seen me you have seen the father. And we are told that as often as we do things to our brothers and neighbours and enemies, we do them to him. So then his spirit is in those who bare his fruit.

So, I believe if one doesn't see or hear him.maybe their not looking or listening hard enough.
And one day, when we look in the mirror we will be able to see him even in ourselves.

So maybe the only thing hiding God is our own understanding of him and his ways.

hugs Niall
lone

Zathrus · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:04 am Post subject:

John 1:18

Niall · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:23 am Post subject:

holly102869 · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:51 am Post subject:

Do you know if you have seen him or not? How would you know if you had? or Not?

What if the guy on the corner asking for money is God. Did you give him your pocket change?

God does't hide!!
People don't seek!!

Why would God show himself to unbelievers?
And if he showed himself to a believer nobody would believe this person anyway...

Have you moved any Mountains lately?
Faith not as strong as a mustard seed?
I don't know about you but I keep trying to move it. Oneday I just might!!!

45degreeN · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:

Niall · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:04 am Post subject:

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6661 Location: USA

Exo 33:18-23 And Moses said, I beseech You, show me Your glory. (19) And God said, I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim My name, THE LORD, before you; for I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy and loving-kindness on whom I will show mercy and loving-kindness. [Rom. 9:15, 16.] (20) But, He said, You can not see My face, for no man shall see Me and live. (21) And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place beside Me, and you shall stand upon the rock, (22) And while My glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. (23) Then I will take away My hand and you shall see My back; but My face shall not be seen.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit (a spiritual Being) and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth (reality).

Rom 1:19-22 For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them. (20) For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], [Ps. 19: 1-4.] (21) Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened. (22) Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].

45degreeN · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

Another point of view is that humans just cannot endure the presence of God, we would just wither away and die in His presence and His grace is such that He doesn't demand this until we are ready.

holly102869 · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:33 am Post subject:

Yes, Good point 45
Didn't Moses have to turn away from God while in his presence.

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 506

I think what you're possibly looking for Niall is a man with a white beard & big booming voice saying I am God perhaps? That's what it sounds like anyway.