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JB
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45,
45 says:
Try this for a paradox.
God is ineffable, nothing we say or do will ever accurately explain who God is in His altogether completeness, words simply refuse to be precise enough. However God Himself chose to use words to communicate with us. That's paradoxical!
How does one respond to this. This to me isn't a paradox but human finiteness. In our greatest moments we cannot even begin to explain God, even though the Scientists attempt to do so regularly. Not even the best read Greek scholars are lost in the presence of the Living God.
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Adam_Love
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| Quote: | | Well those are only contradictions to those who dont dig deeper and try and understand them. |
-45degreeN
No.
I have dug, and dug deeper as well. The Genesis contradictions, for example, are simply that: contradictions. It is because the two parts where written by different authors.
| Quote: | | I dont supposed you've ever studied western Mystical traditions, have you? |
-45degreeN
I have read about Mysticism, both western and eastern. I haven't read very much about Christian Mysticism yet. I'm reading some right now, though.
There is a big difference between the paradoxical nature of divine reality, and flat out contradictory and false statements.
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Adam_Love
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| Quote: | | So really if we can apply the same motive of the Skeptics Annotated Bible to itself we could therefore also conclude the Skeptics Annotated Bible (SAB) as being irrelevant, correct? Merely find one thing not contradicting that the SAB says is a contradiction and we sink the whole relevancy of the SAB? If you say no, then how can we sink the relevancy of the Holy Bible? |
-trettep
I am not saying that the SAB is any kind of authority on anything, but merely a useful resource for finding seemingly contradictory verses easily.
Also, I am not saying the the Bible is irrelevant. Just that it is riddled with contradictions.
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Adam_Love
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| Quote: | | Adam_Love, the peace is in the Sword. |
-trettep
If that were true, then Jesus is making a false statement. He says that he did not come to bring peace. But if the sword is peace, then he did come to bring peace.
Let me try an analogy:
I owe you five dollars. I call you on the phone and say "I am coming to bring money." I show up at your house and I laugh at you and say "you thought I came to bring money? No, I came to punch you in the face!"
My two statements about money are contradictory.
Now, we can pretend to fix the problem by saying:
the punch is the money.
But we all know that it is not true.
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trettep
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| Adam_Love wrote: | | Quote: | | Adam_Love, the peace is in the Sword. |
If that were true, then Jesus is making a false statement. He says that he did not come to bring peace. But if the sword is peace, then he did come to bring peace.
Let me try an analogy:
I owe you five dollars. I call you on the phone and say "I am coming to bring money." I show up at your house and I laugh at you and say "you thought I came to bring money? No, I came to punch you in the face!"
My two statements about money are contradictory.
Now, we can pretend to fix the problem by saying:
the punch is the money.
But we all know that it is not true. |
The Sword will only bring peace after His next visit. It is actually bringing strife now for the Sword is curretly slaying those that believe in Him for it is slaying the "old man". |
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The Sage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: living with the new and the old! |
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Trettep & JB!
In agreement with both your comments, just to add to the mix Heb.4:12-13. 'The word of God is alive', and as the'sword of the spirit is able to descern thoughts and intentions of the heart'.
The Christ the word of God, with 'the long sharp sword of his mouth' will (correct the nations) and sheperd them with the firm rod of direction. Rev.19:11-16.
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JB
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Thanks Sage
Your friend in Christ
JB |
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Nobby
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Hi Adam_Love, please let the readers know who your quoting.  |
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Yehushuan
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| Adam_Love wrote: | | If that were true, then Jesus is making a false statement. He says that he did not come to bring peace. But if the sword is peace, then he did come to bring peace. |
Perhaps it may be beneficial to note that the peace Jesus came to bring was between God and Man. The peace he did not come to bring was that between men and can be seen directly in Shiite Sunni war.
(Jesus ain't got no dog in that fight.)
Yehu
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Adam_Love
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| trettep wrote: | | The Sword will only bring peace after His next visit. |
This is another thing that the bible is contradictory about..
When is the 'next visit' supposed to come? |
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