HEARING THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD?

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

Some of you will recognize the following as parts of previous posts that have been edited. I feel they are worth repeating as the start of a new thread. Your indulgence and comments will be appreciated.
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STATEMENT BY JimD:
The subject of hearing the audible voice of God falls in the same category as speaking in tongues. Tongues can be tested by anyone with as simple a thing as a small portable tape recorder. Tape yourself or any other sincere person who claims to have this gift and take the tape individually to as many other sincere people who claim to have the gift of interpretation as it takes to convince you. You will not do this for several invalid reasons. But the real reason is you do not want to expose your self deception, because to you this would be like denying God. In reality it would be getting real with yourself and God.
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ANONYMOUS STATEMENT: Any time the Lord speaks to me, I test what I hear against the Word of God.

REPLY BY JimD:
Glad you at least (try) to do that. But don't you see even when you test what you think you herd God say by the bible, it is his word (as you understand it), so you end up with your opinion still, only then you are trying to pass your opinion off as Gods word. Dangerous business!

If you say to me, "I have this as a matter of revelation", about a point we do not agree on, you are in effect saying "God revealed this to me, so if you disagree, you are disagreeing with God". Can you see how hypocritical that sounds. You would do much better to just reason with me and let the Holy Spirit confirm or deny what you are saying, thats what is going to end up happening anyway. To claim that God is speaking infallibly through you is ridiculous. You should be able to determine this yourself. Have you ever been totally convinced that God has revealed something to you, only to discover later that you were wrong? Doesn't this make you even a little bit sheepish about doing it again?

Those of us who have not herd an audible voice from God truly doubt if anyone else has since the prophets and apostles. Especially if we sense that you are saying that to try to give what you are saying more credibility, and even more so if we do not agree with what you are saying. Right away you loose credibility! So you see, the very thing you are trying to promote you actually destroy.
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ANONYMOUS QUESTIONS: So how then do you sort out the scriptures? Do you pick the ones that support what you believe and throw out the ones that you aren't comfortable with?

ANSWERED BY JimD:
One thing to do is be totally honest and real with yourself. Another is to realize that you may not be getting the whole picture, sometimes the Bible is not saying what we first think it is. Realize that not everything we read about in the scripture happens all the time nor to everyone. Understand that just because these things are not happening to you, does not make you a second class citizen in Gods kingdom. If you are in a religious community that promotes the idea that if these things are not happening to you that you are somehow deficient, then get out! I could go on and on but I hope you have got the picture.
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Anyone can point out a scripture here and there and prove anything they want to believe, but good theology is understanding the message of the gospel as a whole. Sincerely, JimD

JonMarie · Bear Cub Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 637 Location: Pa.

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JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

JB · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 748

JimD,
Maybe we can discuss this sometime.

God Bless my brother and keep seeking the King.

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

JB · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 748

JimD,
I believe that God has on occasion talked to specific people for three very important reasons.

1.) The scriptures imply that God has spoken to people on occasion .
2.) Several times in my life I heard Him speak.
3.) I know very respected Christians who have experienced the voice of God.

I don't believe that it is a daily occurrence nor do I believe that every one experiences it. I also do not believe that it makes a person more spiritual.

When I was called to Ministry, I heard His voice and it was quite an experience. I guess He had to hit me over the head because I just didn't listen.

I have seen tremendous things happen in ministry as a result of my obedience to His call. Marriage healed, people saved and many many more.
I wouldn't be in ministry today if it hadn't been for that.

Maybe I am a nut case. I don't know. But I do know that God has worked through me.

I also know that God has done some things in your life lately. I sense that He has given you new light as I have read in some of your posts.

Praise God for that.

Jim Keep praying and seeking the King. I believe you are going the right direction.

JB

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

JB, I was referring to Jons questions about prophets. I already knew what you thought about hearing voices.
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Anyone can point out a scripture here and there and prove anything they want to believe, but good theology is understanding the message of the gospel as a whole. Sincerely, JimD

Yehushuan · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject:

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JB · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 748

JimD,
Jeremiah 36:30.
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim, king of Judah, He shall have no one to sit on the throne of David.

This prophecy clearly points to the fact that none of his offspring would be successor to the throne.

Funny thing. His son (Jehoiachin) became the king. 2 Kings 24:8.

God Bless
JB

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 511

JB · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 748

JimD,
This is quite enjoyable actually. How about this one.

Joshua 3:10

Joshua said, "By this you shall know that the living God is among you, and that He will assuredly dispossess from before you the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Hivite, the Perizzite, the Girgashite, the Amorite, and the Jebusite.

Note: the Jebusite's were to be driven out. A prophecy of Joshua.

Joshua 15:63
Now as for the Jebusites, the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the sons of Judah could not drive them out; so the Jebusites live with the sons of Judah at Jerusalem until this day.

Looking forward to seeing your resolution on this one.

God Bless and keep seeking the King.

mtimber · Lion King Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1216

"and you will hear a word behing you, saying this is the way, walk ye in it..."

"a still small voice..."

There is a leading of the Spirit.

An audible voice?

Not for me.

But I am led by the Spirit moment by moment.

It is not an audible voice, but a still small voice that I have learned to recognise because it agrees with the Word of God.

Some have heard this voice and call it their "conscience" I believe.

But we also have the devil who can plant thoughts in our mind.

This is why we have to be careful to have a full knowledge of Gods Word and of His Character.

Only then will we be able to truly discern.

So anyone that says that they are led by the Spirit and do not need the scripture is the most deceived person on this planet.

Did I say that strongly enough?

Mark
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lone-traveler · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject:

Act 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

If these men walked with Jesus and they were "ignorant and unlearned" in the scriptures...
how is it then that we take "these men's" words for truth
seeing they was ignorant and unlearned?

Was it then "by the letter" that they were led or "by the spirit"?

Does the spirit interpret scripture or does scripture intepret the spirit?
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