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| HeKkLeR wrote: |
I am not trying to say... but I am saying... that God's Word told of how planets were formed, thousands of years before science could even think about how planets were formed.
Now, do you not think it extraordinarily amazing... even supernatural... yeah, supernatural... that Moses could write about something thousands of years ago, and thousands of years before his time, that scientists now are finding out to be true?
I mean... strictly from a science point of view?  |
This is a pretty massive reach. If Genesis said that God allowed the protoplanetary disk to accrete rock to create the planet and have icy meteors and other sources of water strike the planet to allow the accumulation of oceans, then you might have a point. But it doesn't say that. It says some vague and highly inaccurate stuff about separating the waters from the waters, and never even mentions the *vital* role played by rocks.
The Earth is mostly made out of rock, and there's barely any water on it in comparison. You know that, right?
Your Biblical interpretation of scientific prognostication would be a whole lot more impressive if you didn't have to bend over so far backwards in order to make your case.
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HeKkLeR
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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HeKkLeR
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| P# wrote: | | This is a pretty massive reach. |
Please note the avatar. 
| Quote: | | If Genesis said that God allowed the protoplanetary disk to accrete rock to create the planet and have icy meteors and other sources of water strike the planet to allow the accumulation of oceans, then you might have a point. But it doesn't say that. |
Genesis 1:9-10And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
| Quote: | | It says some vague and highly inaccurate stuff about separating the waters from the waters, and never even mentions the *vital* role played by rocks. |
Please read the above verses of Holy Scripture left for your convenience. 
And after you do, can you point out to me the "highly inaccurate stuff" that you mentioned?
| Quote: | | The Earth is mostly made out of rock, and there's barely any water on it in comparison. You know that, right? |
 You're funny, P#. I love you for that.
| Quote: | | Your Biblical interpretation of scientific prognostication would be a whole lot more impressive if you didn't have to bend over so far backwards in order to make your case. |
Ok.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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So what's the "one place" that all of the waters under the heaven gathered?
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HeKkLeR
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | So what's the "one place" that all of the waters under the heaven gathered? |
| Quote: | | 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. |
Not sure how you could miss that. 
But anyway... with regards of your friendly neighborhood HeKkLeR.
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HeKkLeR
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Hey P#!
The following quotes are all yours from another thread (or two):
| Quote: | | Considering how the Bible was written by a bunch of scientifically ignorant people in the desert thousands of years ago, this doesn't seem like very sound scientific reasoning to me. |
| Quote: | Some examples of type 2 mistakes in the Bible (The kind where hard-core creationists insist that the ignorant people in the desert who wrote the Bible knew better than today's scientists):
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3. That there was enough water on the Earth to flood the entire planet up to the height of the tallest mountain, |
| P# wrote: | | It says that the entire universe was filled with water and that God created some kind of hard shell around the Earth which divided the waters from the waters. We know that outer space is not filled with water. We know that there are no 'firmaments' around the Earth. |
| Quote: | | There is only one view of the flood which mainstream scientists endorse, and that is that there isn't nearly enough water on the planet to cover it up to the height of the highest mountain, which is what the Bible says. This is just one more example of science showing that a statement in the Bible is false. |
| Quote: | What about all of that nonsense where it says God divided the waters above from the waters below with the firmament?
Is the universe filled with water? No. Is there some kind of a shell around the Earth into which all of the stars are fixed? No. |
| Quote: | | I also wish someone would address the part where God parts the waters from the waters. This really says that outer space is/was filled with water, and it really isn't/wasn't. |
| Quote: | | And the flood: There literally isn't enough water on the planet to flood it to the height of the tallest mountain. Where did all of that water go??? |
| Quote: | | It isn't just that Genesis contains one or two scientific errors. Almost every verse is wrong! |
Do you stick with all of your above arguments? You sure have not brought them into this thread.
If so, I would very gladly like to refute all of them! Especially since science, which is your molded crutch, refutes those arguments, also! 
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