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WHAT IS SATAN?


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trettep
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tree said: didn't make a statement in regard to that. I asked a question to you.


If you've got something to say Tree, just spit it out, we are all ears!


I guess we have reached a communication break down. I asked you before who are the 144,000 (in revelation) and the two witnesses? You had claimed that the Temple has already been built. Your response was to make the implication that I was making a statement to which you then refuted an imaginary statement (we call that a strawman argument). Some people do such things because they misunderstand. Some people do such things because they exhibit a spirit of deceitfulness. I rather not accuse you and give you the benefit that I would like to receive and assume you just misunderstood.

Paul
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tree said: I guess we have reached a communication break down. I asked you before who are the 144,000 (in revelation) and the two witnesses? You had claimed that the Temple has already been built. Your response was to make the implication that I was making a statement to which you then refuted an imaginary statement (we call that a strawman argument). Some people do such things because they misunderstand. Some people do such things because they exhibit a spirit of deceitfulness. I rather not accuse you and give you the benefit that I would like to receive and assume you just misunderstood.


You are right, I should have told you right up front that I am not about to go into a discussion on the book of Revelation with someone who I am not convinced even knows the basics of salvation, and believes in pre-mil, maybe even disp. pre-mil, top that off with as bad a case of literalism / legalism as I have ever seen. Sorry to be so tough on you but man you need to wake up! See how far back you have set me on my quest for patience Sad and you know its all your fault Smile Wink
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trettep
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
JimD, let me reach out to you. Would you like to discuss the matter of salvation in great depth with me? I would like to do so free of the numbers - 1v1. We can do so either here or at my forum if you desire.

Paul
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JimD
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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[quote="trettep"]JimD, let me reach out to you. Would you like to discuss the matter of salvation in great depth with me? I would like to do so free of the numbers - 1v1. We can do so either here or at my forum if you desire.


Thanks for the offer but I do not really see any point in it because you nor i are likely to change or view. We have already went as (deep) as we both know how to go, unless you have been holding back something that would be particurally illuminating. If so please share it with me right here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
JimD wrote:


Thanks for the offer but I do not really see any point in it because you nor i are likely to change or view. We have already went as (deep) as we both know how to go, unless you have been holding back something that would be particurally illuminating. If so please share it with me right here.


JimD. Thanks for your time.

Paul
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS SATAN? Reply with quote
bitterlily wrote:
This study seeks to establish what Satan is according to the Scriptures. Feel free to join in...

In Scripture Satan is described as:

The Old Serpent, Devil (Diabolos) and Dragon... (Rev 20:2)
The Fowls of Heaven (ouranos)...(Luk 8:5 & 8:12)
A Roaring Lion...(1 Pe 5:8)
An Angel (Messenger)...(2 Cor 12:7)
A Liar and the Father of Lies...(Joh 8:44)
A Murderer from the Beginning...(Joh 8:44)
The Accuser...(Rev 12:10)
The Tempter...(Mat 4:3)
Our Adversary...(1 Pe 5:8)
An Oppressor...(Acts 10:38)
One who Binds...(Luk 13:16)

To be continued...


The 'god of this world' (2 Corinthians 4:4)
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