Hmm...Genesis 2:1

Maverick1337 · Goldfish Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 64

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Host according to my e-Sword

Host- ; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): - appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).

From - tsâbâ' tsebâ'âh
tsaw-baw', tseb-aw-aw'

6th day there was a "host" on the earth. Don't think I've ever heard of 2 people called a host, nor a group of animals called a host.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

Then there was the 7th day afterwards. That obviously this host was there.
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FFT · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

I would suggest that the "host" in question is simply the heavens and earth.
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Maverick1337 · Goldfish Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 64

The host originates from THEM. Them is the souce of the host. Them being the Heavens and earth. Heavens and earth are the source of the host.

Of - used to indicate distance or direction from, separation, deprivation, etc

- used to indicate derivation, origin, or source

- many other definitions w/similar meansing but...

- add this definition to any other sentence using the
word "of" and it fits in quite nicely.

Adam and Eve were created by God but were they the ONLY ones created ? Does it say anywhere that they were the first two and ONLY two created through supernatural means? Or is there a rather large gap between day 6 and day 7?
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Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place
unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith
the Lord.

12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give
him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

FFT · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:

Maverick1337 · Goldfish Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 64

Gen 2:1 (KJV) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Interpolated because they don't have a definition of "of them." part. I'm assuming. But assuming creates doctrine and religions. Smile

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Edit : If you can read Hebrew

וַיְכֻלּוּ הַשָּׁמַיִם וְהָאָרֶץ, וְכָל-צְבָאָם
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Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place
unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith
the Lord.

12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give
him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

FFT · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:

It's "finished heavens earth whole host," if you just directly translate the Hebrew into English.

As Strong's points out, it can mean a mass of persons or, figuratively, things. I would argue that the "things" are the heavens and earth.
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atoz · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Hmm...Genesis 2:1

Ooops!
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atoz · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Hmm...Genesis 2:1

Maverick1337 · Goldfish Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 64

Why is there not a cross reference calling "Heaven and earth" a host.

Psalm 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Psalms 148:2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts

Deut 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Deut 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

2 Kings 21:3-5 For he built up again the high places which Hezekiah his father had destroyed; and he reared up altars for Baal, and made a grove, as did Ahab king of Israel; and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them. 4 And he built altars in the house of the LORD, of which the LORD said, In Jerusalem will I put my name. 5 And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.

Edit: Theres more scripture but my 1 year old sons trying to help me type. Smile

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Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place
unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith
the Lord.

12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give
him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

MoJo · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: