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herald
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: The New Birth Reply with quote

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments and do them." Ezekiel 36:26,27.

We are born in bondage to sin and in need of redemption. God robed Himself with flesh in the Lord Jesus Christ, and came to bear away our sin.

He gives us a new heart, a new spirit, and puts His Spirit within us, enabling us by His Holy Spirit of Grace (Heb 10:29) to walk with Him in holiness. He "causes us" to walk in His Word - His law.

"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." Galatians 2:20.

The old man of sin was crucified with Christ, so that, we may walk in newness of life. When His Spirit lives within us, we are empowered by His Spirit to obey His Word - His law.

The mark of every false religion is the idea of earning our salvation through our own works. "...the plowing of the wicked is sin." Proverbs 21:4. As long as we are in bondage to sin, it is impossible to earn our own salvation.

Jesus said, "Not every one that saith, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven.

MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness) Matthew 7:21-23.

Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God." John 3:3.

When we are born of His Spirit, we become children of God, having His life within us. And our Father knows us, because, we are His children. And we will know Him - "And I will give them an heart to know me, that I AM the Lord..." Jeremiah 24:7.

We are incapable of earning our salvation through our own works, because, we are in sin. It is by putting our faith in the works of the sinless Lamb of God - the Lord Jesus Christ, that, we are brought into the Father's Kingdom.

First, we must agree with God, that, we are sinners. Then, we must believe, that, Jesus bore our sin upon the cross. Finally, we receive Him as our Lord, inviting His Spirit to live within us.

This brings us to eternal life, and we will live with Him in His Kingdom forever!
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

herald says

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First, we must agree with God, that, we are sinners. Then, we must believe, that, Jesus bore our sin upon the cross. Finally, we receive Him as our Lord, inviting His Spirit to live within us.

This brings us to eternal life, and we will live with Him in His Kingdom forever!


Are these conditions to be born again ? How is one born again ?
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JonMarie
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trusting in the Lord enough to believe what He said is true, by living in obedience to His Word.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie wrote:
trusting in the Lord enough to believe what He said is true, by living in obedience to His Word.


And just how is a dead person to do this ?
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie wrote:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;


How does God do this ? and why ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie wrote:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Nope, a dead person cant seek lol..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dead person had their Chance and they didn't except it.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

The day the unbeliever dies is the Last day they to repent. Thats why if i had to choose in certain situations, and was one were someone had to die. I would First Choose myself,
if i couldn't, then i would choose the christian over the unbeliever. I know where both of them are going.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A dead person had their Chance and they didn't except it.


This is a silly response..a dead person is dead idiot..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silly. But true.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joebob787 wrote:
Silly. But true.


2 thess 2:


11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hebrews 9:27
27 And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment,
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beloved 57:
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Nope, a dead person cant seek lol..


Are you speaking literally, as in physical death ? If you are then you are correct.
If you are speaking figuratively, as in dead in our sin, then you are incorrect.

Does a person who is underwater with no breathing apparatus, need to be told to try and reach the surface?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie,

Are you suggesting that a person has the ability to choose God?

JB
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