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Jamtomorrow
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| atoz wrote: | 99% of victims hate robbers before they were robbed, which Hate meant that the victims were already themselves robbers before they were victims of robbery. Endless cases of Hitchcock's 'To catch a thief.'
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I've read your posts with interest in this thread, Atoz. If victims hate robbers before they were robbed, does it mean any more than that they have the wit and imagination to infer what it would be like to be robbed, and that they would hate any person that would do that to them? Does that make them robbers before they were robbed?
Also, I think people are far more likely to fear robbers before they are robbed, and hate them after (though fear is the parent of hate, I have no doubt).
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| Jamtomorrow wrote: | | atoz wrote: | 99% of victims hate robbers before they were robbed, which Hate meant that the victims were already themselves robbers before they were victims of robbery. Endless cases of Hitchcock's 'To catch a thief.'
What do you think?
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I've read your posts with interest in this thread, Atoz.
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Atoz: Thanx, Jamtom.
JT: If victims hate robbers before they were robbed, does it mean any more than that they have the wit and imagination to infer what it would be like to be robbed, and that they would hate any person that would do that to them?
ATOZ: Yes.
If I hate robbers who will rob me of my money,
then I am already a robber robbing them of their Love that I owe to them, and that I am stealing from them and that God commands me to pay them at all times,
and my Hate for them will induce fear of them. Rom 13:8.1 John 4:18.
Do you follow?
Then God seeing that I hate and in Hate fear robbers, will send those robbers on me to get me to pay that Love. Please see Ezekiel 23:28-29.
Job 3:25.
But if there is no one there to tell me this, I will blame satan or others for this and get even more hateful and phobic, and here we go again.
Do you see?
If you wd like, I cd explain how my hatred of robbers justifies robbers to hate themselves as poor, which Hate of themselves as poor justifies them to rob me and others to get rich to love themselves.
JT: Does that make them robbers before they were robbed?
Atoz: Yes.
When I hate robbers, I am robbing them of the most precious commodity that makes life worth living while they will steal my money.
And I will continue robbing them of Love EVEN AFTER they stop robbing me!
JT: Also, I think people are far more likely to fear robbers before they are robbed, and hate them after (though fear is the parent of hate, I have no doubt).[/quote]
Atoz: Fear is the first emotion that is felt and is what first warns people feel or makes them aware that something is wrong -- when people are already using Hate as their customary attitude. That is why Fear is called the cause of Hate. But it is actually the other way around and that is easily proved.
Just ask yourself:
What is the opposite of Love: Fear or Hate?
What does God say is the opposite of Love? See Matthew 5:43. 6:24. 1 John 2:9-11.
Which comes first: Love or fear?
So since Love comes before fear, and Hate is the opposite of Love, which comes first: Fear or Hate?
Then:
Do I love fear or do I hate fear?
Do I love myself as fearful or
do I hate myself as fearful?
Do I fear myself as hateful or
do I hate myself as fearful?
So what actually happens is that when we hate any person as if that Hate is normal, that Hate subsequently auto breeds abnormal fears of who we hate, and we auto fear the people we hate, then those fears mean more Hate and more Hate means more fears, and we not only hate who we fear but we also hate our fears and so the fears are compounded into phobias--which is when we also when we notice something is Very wrong and get really alarmed.
Hope that is understandable and helps.
If not, please ask more questions.
With Love and R,
Atoz
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