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pastor2022
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Worthy to be Loved Reply with quote

Worthy to be Loved
I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.

Psalm 40:8

Why do we love God? Is it because His attributes so often result in benefit to us personally or because He is simply worthy to be loved? Do we love God for His sake or for our own?

An utterly honest appraisal of our hearts will often reveal that our seeking of God has been more a seeking of certain blessings from God rather than a seeking of God Himself. Very few of us are not indicted by these words from Thomas Merton: "They respect God as a Master. But their heart does not belong to Him. They are not really interested in Him, except in order to insure themselves against losing heaven and going to hell. In actual practice, their minds and hearts are taken up with their own ambitions and troubles and comforts and pleasures and all their worldly interests and anxieties and fears. God is only invited to enter this charmed circle to smooth out difficulties and to dispense rewards."

But a "true love of God must begin with a delight in his holiness" (Jonathan Edwards). Our devotion to God must be akin to Job's. Although Satan sneered, "Does Job fear God for nothing?" (Job 1:9), the truth was that Job's faithfulness reached far beyond the benefits he had been receiving from God. When every other reason was stripped away, Job did what was right simply because it was right. He loved God because God deserves to be loved.

It may help to try to look at love from God's side. Can we imagine our state if, in deciding whether to love us, God had ever asked the question, "What's in it for Me?" If any part of His love depended on our ability to "help Him solve His problems," there would be no love! Apparently, He loves us because we are His creatures, simply for our own sake. And we are to love Him because He is our Creator, simply for His own sake. Love's joy has to do with giving, not getting. The moment our main focus shifts from the One we are to love to ourselves, true joy begins to disappear. "Give me, good Lord, a longing to be with you, not to avoid the calamities of this world, nor so much to attain the joys of heaven, as simply for love of you" (Thomas More).

"Love for God springs from His own excellence rather than from our need of Him."(James M. Houston) The love which springs forth from Him and is shed abroad in our hearts is to be returned. That love is also to be nurtured and shared. Worthy to be loved...God,ourselves, others, all.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Worthy to be Loved Reply with quote

Great as usual, P2022!
Thank you!
But some comments ansd questions.smile

pastor2022 wrote:


....
Why do we love God?
Is it because His attributes so often result in benefit to us personally or because He is simply worthy to be loved? Do we love God for His sake or for our own?

.....
It may help to try to look at love from God's side. Can we imagine our state if, in deciding whether to love us, God had ever asked the question, "What's in it for Me?" If any part of His love depended on our ability to "help Him solve His problems," there would be no love! Apparently, He loves us because we are His creatures, simply for our own sake.[atoz' bold]

atoz: So P2022,

If God loves you for your sake,
are you not to follow God's example
and love YOURSELF for your own sake---
so you can then love God's back for HIS own sake?
see 1 John 4:19. John 15:9.



pastor2022 wrote:

And we are to love Him because He is our Creator, simply for His own sake.

Love's joy has to do with giving, not getting.

atoz: P2022, can you give without getting?
To give, don't you have to get or take from yourself?
And to get or take, don't you have to give to yourself?
If God is against getting,
how can He be the biggest giver if and when we refuse to take from him based on his own advice that HE is against getting?
see?

pastor2022 wrote:

The moment our main focus shifts from the One we are to love to ourselves, true joy begins to disappear.

atoz: Since God loves me for myself,
am I not spitting in God's face when I hate ME,
the very ME he created and LOVES for my own sake and for HIS own sake?

How can I really thank God for me while hating the very me by which I thank God for Him?

pastor2022 wrote:

"Give me, good Lord, a longing to be with you, not to avoid the calamities of this world, nor so much to attain the joys of heaven, as simply for love of you" (Thomas More).

"Love for God springs from His own excellence rather than from our need of Him."(James M. Houston) The love which springs forth from Him and is shed abroad in our hearts is to be returned. That love is also to be nurtured and shared. Worthy to be loved...God,ourselves, others, all.

atoz: The Love is to be returned
after we take it from God for ourselves,
then give it to ourselves by loving ourselves as God loves us as Himself, John 15:9,
and so love Him back as ourselves!
right?smile

Without me, there is no God.
Without God, there is no me!

with the Love by which I first thank God in Love for me, since
it is by me that I can then thank God in Love for Himself,
atoz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Worthy to be Loved Reply with quote

atoz wrote:
Great as usual, P2022!
Thank you!
But some comments ansd questions.smile

atoz: P2022, can you give without getting?
To give, don't you have to get or take from yourself?
And to get or take, don't you have to give to yourself?
If God is against getting,
how can He be the biggest giver if and when we refuse to take from him based on his own advice that HE is against getting?
see?

Pastor: Atoz, anytime we give our love to God without conditions, that is, without requiring God to give us "things" in return, we always "receive" because we receive Him. We have already received or gotten the greatest of all when we have received Him. God is not against our "getting." He is against our trying to "use" Him to "get things" from Him just for the sake of "things." God's desire is that we desire Him.

atoz: Since God loves me for myself,
am I not spitting in God's face when I hate ME,
the very ME he created and LOVES for my own sake and for HIS own sake?

How can I really thank God for me while hating the very me by which I thank God for Him?

Pastor: I (and every child of God) am very special because God loves me and because of my relationship which He initiated and consummated because of Jesus Christ. My genuine sense of self-worth is based on who I am in Him and His love and goodness.

atoz: The Love is to be returned
after we take it from God for ourselves,
then give it to ourselves by loving ourselves as God loves us as Himself, John 15:9,
and so love Him back as ourselves!
right?smile

Pastor: We love Him because He first loved us and gave Himself for us! Is that not the crux of the matter? His love given and shared so that we in turn would give and share that love to Him, ourselves, others and all?
Without me, there is no God.
Without God, there is no me!

with the Love by which I first thank God in Love for me, since
it is by me that I can then thank God in Love for Himself,
atoz


God bless.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Worthy to be Loved Reply with quote

Pastor: Atoz, anytime we give our love to God without conditions, that is, without requiring God to give us "things" in return, we always "receive" because we receive Him. We have already received or gotten the greatest of all when we have received Him. God is not against our "getting." He is against our trying to "use" Him to "get things" from Him just for the sake of "things." God's desire is that we desire Him.

...
Pastor: I (and every child of God) am very special because God loves me and because of my relationship which He initiated and consummated because of Jesus Christ. My genuine sense of self-worth is based on who I am in Him and His love and goodness.

....
Pastor: We love Him because He first loved us and gave Himself for us! Is that not the crux of the matter? His love given and shared so that we in turn would give and share that love to Him, ourselves, others and all?
...
God bless.

Excellent!smile

with all Love and Respect with no conditions,
atoz
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