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theseldomscene
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| jamie wrote: | | I play piano a little by ear |
aren't you supposed to use your fingers?..  |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jamie,
I play a little guitar....by ear.
| Quote: | | aren't you supposed to use your fingers?.. |
ROFL... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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lone jammin' on the six string...
freefall's(my girl) dad used to play backup for the beach boys...he is really good...last CHRISTmas i sat for a hour or two and listened to him jam...it was awesome...  |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| theseldomscene wrote: | lone jammin' on the six string...
freefall's(my girl) dad used to play backup for the beach boys...he is really good...last CHRISTmas i sat for a hour or two and listened to him jam...it was awesome... |
12 string.. |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| the byrds!!! .... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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i have been reading lately about the rpci doctrine(reformed presby. church international)...or something like that...anyway...
they don't have music...don't believe in it...now here is what is confusing to me...they only believe in singing songs from the psalms(the group i am refering to anyway...i visit ones blog every once and a while)...when asked why the answer was that they believe the psalms to be the songs in the bible of praise and worship we are to sing and no others in church services ...songs that come for the book of psalms in the o.t. only!!!...now
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when asked why then did they reject what psalms teaches about praising HIM on the instruments...they said...
because that was o.t. instructions for the jews and ther is no n.t. instruction for music...  ...
does that seem somewhat...well...i have a word but it seems harsh so i will not use it...but that seems weird to me...
we can only sing o.t. psalms in church for worship and praise but we don't obey how those very psalms say to worship and praise(on instruments) because they are o.t. instructions... ...so according to them we are told and commanded to sing only from psalms which teaches about praising HIM with music but we are not actually to praise HIM with music..
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mick24458
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There's plenty of music that I don't like but that doesn't mean it's sinful. Music is a vehicle for communication, just like art, poetry, film, etc, etc. It all depends on what is being communicated. If you don't like the medium of communication it doesn't make it evil.
I can't stand opera but that doesn't make it evil. I can't stand twangy country and western, that doesn't make it evil. I don't like "headbanging" metal, but that doesn't make it evil (just noise lol).
I wish Chrstian wouldn't declare cultural things evil, they're just cultural. Don't expect youth culture to enjoy 200 y.o music culture of old-time hymns.
Christianity doesn't know cultural boundaries (isn't that what the Counsel of Jerusalem was about) just moral boundaries.
I won't declare music evil unless it is conveying an evil message. If it's too loud for me then it's too loud for me (probably an OH&S issue in many contexts) but it doesn't mean it's evil, just a health hazard.
My $0.02 worth.
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lone-traveler
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1Cr 14:7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
Psa 49:4 I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark saying upon the harp.
I haven't been listening to much music today..from the mouths of babes God shows forth His truth.
And a lot of times truth isn't easy to hear. It can sound "radical", "brassy", even unsettling.
Sometimes the orchestra plays not to our liking...but can the "sounds" of today give us insight into the hearts and minds of our chidren?
When you sing a song in your heart, or thoughts come to mind and you place them on paper, you find the music that conveys those thoughts and join them together.
So if the music today from our children sounds hollow, or angry, or mournful, even rebellious or cruel and unkind. Maybe this is how they percieve the world to be and try to express their thoughts to others.
But at the same time that the sounds are brutish, there are others that are loving and kind and gentle. Maybe not because of what they "percieve" today, but their hopes and dreams for tomorrow.
I believe in my heart that God talks to us, through each thought, idea, and song. And we should listen and learn to see where they're headed, and give them encouragement to look towards a "brighter" day, even though "today" may seem dark.
And I believe that what we hear is how they see it now. Sometimes we get so wrapped in in yesterday and in tomorrow, we forget or choose not to look at today.
Looking over the psalms there are many that are not all happy and glad. But many are sad and sorrowful.
And I notice that the church likes to "pick out" the good ones and neglect the sad ones...
Luk 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Maybe sometimes it's not what we hear, but how we hear it?
All things come from God and serve His purpose.
Just because I don't like them, doesn't make it so.
Just pluckin some strings.. 
God Bless
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eleven
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What's not acceptable music?
Hhmmm..........
How about AC/DC's, "Highway to Hell"
"Sympathy for the Devil" - Rolling Stones
"Dude Looks Like a Lady" - Aerosmith
Yeah, I'd think it would be safe to say these wouldn't make God's top ten list.  |
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RevJP
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| Quote: | | "Dude Looks Like a Lady" - Aerosmith |
Why this one? |
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eleven
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| RevJP wrote: | | Quote: | | "Dude Looks Like a Lady" - Aerosmith |
Why this one? |
Well I was just thinking that this song is about a transvestite who would has no qualms about sleeping with another man, or murdering him.... whichever comes first.
I actually like the song, but the activities therein maybe a little less than honorable- at least for a church crowd. |
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james
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| How do we define what is written in 1 Thess 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil" in light of music??? To me I just don't see "Christian Rock" as good. There are too many times I can not hear the words or it is just blairing instrumentals and sounds absolutely no different from worldly rock. |
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eleven
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| james wrote: | | How do we define what is written in 1 Thess 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil" in light of music??? To me I just don't see "Christian Rock" as good. There are too many times I can not hear the words or it is just blairing instrumentals and sounds absolutely no different from worldly rock. |
I don't think there is anything "evil" about Christian rock, but just like any other style of music, there are some hard rockers, and some others that are more like folk songs.
Maybe we rely to much on our emotions and "feelings' when we listen to music. I think more attention should be paid to what is being said and the intention. Most of all, think worship has to be sincere. If it is based on sensationalism, then it's just a waste of time. |
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Mista_Jim
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I am a big fan of music. Music being in the genres that I know.
I used to listen to Danzig, King Diamond, Ozzy to name to name a few. I was a big metal-head. I listen to country now. As much as I used to down it and stuff. People change. I did. I listen to some Christian stuff as well. When I was growing up, my folks told me I could listen to anything I wanted. As long as I understood the lyrics didn't affect me. Which they didn't. Back in the day, I was listening to RATT, Judas Priest and all those Monster of Rock groups from the 80's. I turned out alright. Wife, kid, nice house and wanting to serve the Lord.
I don't know why I opened myself up for this, but I wanted to let you see from my perspective.
Jim |
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Dakryn
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Im going to put myself in the minority (as usual lol) as a Metal-head. That doesn't mean I like all metal or approve of the message of all metal. But overall metal seams to me to be the secular music.
I haven't heard hardly any hip-hop/pop/pop-rock that doesnt talk about sex and relationships. Which for me is not something I want to listen to in my music.
[Religious] music on the other side I have a doctrinal dispute with lyrical half the time and I don't like having to keep [cringing] every time a line is sung that I disagree with. At least when I'm listening to anything from Metallica to Mastodon I already know that there is no attempt to make it spiritual, and I can enjoy the actual instrumental side.
For those who can't stand the screaming I do understand, it was an acquired taste. There are good screamers and bad screamers, just like there are good guitarists and not so good etc.To me it's like another instrument or way to play [your voice].
Most importantly the scriptures do not address music in any way of thou shalt/thou shalt not, and if you want to argue the "appearance" thing, you have to prove that listening to a type of music is appearing to sin. |
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