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If there were no God, there would be no atheists.



 
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atoz
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: If there were no God, there would be no atheists. Reply with quote

"If there were no God, there would be no atheists."
G. K. Chesterton.

Does that mean that God must exist since there are atheists?smile

in the Theism of Love for atheists & theists,
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FFT
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly it just doesn't make sense. If there were no God and nobody believed in a God everyone would be atheists.
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atoz
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFT wrote:
Honestly it just doesn't make sense. If there were no God and nobody believed in a God everyone would be atheists.


U mean if there were no God
and everybody believed in NO God,
everybody would be a believing atheist?smile

Or,
can you believe in nothing if nothing does not exist?smile
To believe in nothing, nothing has to exist!smile
Think nothing as in zero in math!

with Love, and R,
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FFT
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also an avaderist. I don't believe Darth Vader actually exists.

So is anyone that's never even heard of Star Wars.

Atheism is nothing more than a position on belief. If you believe in a deity, you are a theist. If you do not believe or lack belief in a deity, you are an atheist. By definition, people without a conception of a deity are atheists—even if one conceived of a world where the idea had never come up in the first place.
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atoz
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are more things in your philosphy, FFtio,
Than you have ever dreamt of. smile
With thanx to WS!

I'm also an avaderist.
I do believe Darth Vader actually does not exist in outer reality,
while I do believe that he exists in the inner reality of my mind....
which inner reality is the more real reality since it is what we use to make sense out of the virtual reality of outer reality.

So too does anyone who's heard of 'star' and 'war' also believe in star wars even tho they have not yet put those two words together and never even heard of Star Wars.

Atheism is only a position on belief in nothing.
If you believe in a deity and disbelieve in no deity, you are an atheistic theist.
If you do believe in no deity, you are a theistic atheist.

By definition, people with a conception of no deity are atheists—even if one conceived of a world where the idea had never come up in the first place...as with mind with 'star' and 'war' in it that has never out those 2 words together as in Star Wars or War-star.

In the Love for nothing that then makes something out of airy nothing,smile
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Colter
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question : What does the dislexic athiest say ?

Answer : There is no dog.


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atoz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colter wrote:
Question : What does the dislexic athiest say ?

Answer : There is no dog.


Colter


To which the dyslexic theist asks:

Where is the original dog and god
about which you said
there is no dog and no god?smile

in the dogogod aisle of view,smile
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFT wrote:
I'm also an avaderist. I don't believe Darth Vader actually exists.

So is anyone that's never even heard of Star Wars.

Atheism is nothing more than a position on belief. If you believe in a deity, you are a theist. If you do not believe or lack belief in a deity, you are an atheist. By definition, people without a conception of a deity are atheists—even if one conceived of a world where the idea had never come up in the first place.


Another related concept is that of anti-theism. Atheists believe that God doesn't exist, whereas anti-theists are atheists who ALSO believe that religion is bad.

There are atheists who are not anti-theists, but as far as I can tell, most atheists here are also anti-theists, at least to some extent.
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atoz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P1234567890 wrote:


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Another related concept is that of anti-theism. Atheists believe that God doesn't exist, whereas anti-theists are atheists who ALSO believe that religion is bad.

There are atheists who are not anti-theists, but as far as I can tell, most atheists here are also anti-theists, at least to some extent.


And any theist who hates any atheist or antitheist,
and any atheist who hates any theist or anti-theist,
and any anti-theist who hates any theist or atheist
have one thing in common:
their common Hatred for self as others
and so for others as self....
a most self-defeating axiom.

in the Axiom of Love for all for and for all against anything,
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