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Trinity1
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| theseldomscene wrote: | | tri wrote: | | You have previously stated that you want al Queda operatives to kill American soldiers in Iraq |
now please show where the words you said i said are at int eh thread you offered... |
| Trinity in the referenced thread wrote: | Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject:
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The Seldom Scene has remarked over in the Political Thread that our soldiers fighting in Iraq getting gunned down while deployed. He has also insinuated that he is actually supporting the terrorists in their fight against our soldiers.
These remarks and inferences are way out of bounds, in my opinion. Even for TSS. He and I both are Christians... respect each others faith... and I personally believe that him and I will spend eternity together with Christ ( )... anyway.... I simply won't/can't let this go. These remarks are off the charts... even for TSS. His hatred of our President has clouded his judgment almost completely with this subject. I believe that he has demonstrated this with his remarks. If he is offended by the term “Bush Derangement Syndrome” (a series of remarks that are unreasonable in light of logic and fact due to their hatred of our President), then I would like to see him qualify his disdain for our troops where he would want them dead in Iraq.
If he is going to make such remarks about our troops... through his support in with the terrorists... I believe he should at a minimum qualify these statements with something other than name calling.
So.. .TSS... I'd would like to hear what you have to say for yourself.
| TSS in the refereced thread wrote: | Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject:
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i am guilty as charged and at this time do favor the al q. effort in iraq over the u.s.'s...nor do i support the u.s. lead invasion of iraq in anyway...
there...what else do you wish for me to say?... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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yes i have a question....where do these words exist in your quote...?...
| tri wrote: | | You have previously stated that you want al Queda operatives to kill American soldiers in Iraq |
honesty? ... |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| theseldomscene wrote: | yes i have a question....where do these words exist in your quote...?...
| tri wrote: | | You have previously stated that you want al Queda operatives to kill American soldiers in Iraq |
honesty? ... |
You bore me TSS... you know exactly what you meant here and in the thread that led to this discusison... play stupid if you want... I don't care. However, we know what went on and what you meant and wrote.
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Trinity1 wrote: | | theseldomscene wrote: | yes i have a question....where do these words exist in your quote...?...
| tri wrote: | | You have previously stated that you want al Queda operatives to kill American soldiers in Iraq |
honesty? ... |
You bore me TSS... |
i don't care... 
| Quote: | | you know exactly what you meant here and in the thread that led to this discusison... |
what did i mean tri?...
| Quote: | | play stupid if you want... I don't care. |
good for you...but stupid is letting someone talk you into fighting and murdering for free dental...
| Quote: | | However, we know what went on and what you meant and wrote. |
what did i mean tri?.. |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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give it a rest, both of you.
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PrysdieHeer!
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In the South African Border War 1968-1990 the Special Forces The Rekkies either got mad or they committed suicide. My mother knew such a guy.
I think they cannot handle what they have seen. It is much like someone going through trauma and some never recovers. The Result is suicide.
I Knew a guy who committed suicide because his girlfriend left him.
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Plotinus
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The issue of the emotional trauma of war and its relationship to suicide is a troubling one for all of us on all sides of the issue.
Here is an article which points to a possible future that we may face in wars to come: LINK
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RevJP
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P1234567890
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This kind of news makes me really angry. The soldiers who go and fight for America are treated like dirt. The Iraq war has been set up so that defense contractors make as much money as possible, but then the government cuts corners and skimps on the soldiers (you know, the people who are actually making sacrifices and risking their own lives).
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atoz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: |
This kind of news makes me really angry. The soldiers who go and fight for America are treated like dirt. The Iraq war has been set up so that defense contractors make as much money as possible, but then the government cuts corners and skimps on the soldiers (you know, the people who are actually making sacrifices and risking their own lives). |
P123,
I feel that anger too---but in Love!
America can't make me hate if I don't want to hate.
America can only make me more so because i was already of the same mindset.
Why suicides:
Because Love is what makes life really worth living,
Hatred for myself as any word
means
that I am already psychospiritually dead to the extent of that Hatred for myself, ---walking dead---
and contunuing to kill myself psychosporitually,
and I am making my own life not worth living.
So when I am then sent to kill others and I allow myself to further indoctrinated with Hate for terrorists or for whoever the enemy is,
I am making mysef more miserable no matter how many terrorists I kill in Hate since every kill is a another death of myselfLove.
Then with all that self-hate when I come back home, the logical next step is to physically kill mysef---in Hate of myself!
So if I were to hate the USA for how badly they treat the individual soldiers, I am part of the problem I decry. The guys and gals who make up that part of the usa I hate are also people who hate being poor and so rip off others all the way to their bank and all the way to the graves of the hated others!
But if I love the usa, then I wd realise that we all make up the usa---so let me spread the word: haven't we all heard what's the word?--- Love yourself as all words, so that you wd be doubly alive when alive, so that you wd love your enemy who hates you, so you wd be able to kill your enemy with Love, and be sad at his death as at your own, and so do more to win hearts and minds, and make real peace and pacify by making friends out of enemies---that's the very best way to KILL enemies!
sigh
Hope that helps.
with Love for suiciders and homiciders and fratriciders and patriciders and matriciders and all kinds of -ciders,
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Pondering
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ok...here's the facts: CHECK LINK
original source citation at bottom of image...
so...as you can see...deaths from suicide, when we weren't "at war" were actually higher on average during the Clinton years (roughly 190/year) than during the Bush years (roughly 160/year)....that's called a) perspective and b) "within" statistical deviation"
Moreover, the US population averages about 20/100,000 for the 18-34 year age group...the military averages about 17/100,000 for that same age group..
Gee..you mean the military aren't "other" people, but actually reflect our society at large? whoda thunk it 
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