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theseldomscene
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so in other words atoz made an implication mikie did not even hint at and now can't admit he was wrong...cool...
oh yes you did atoz...here it is...
| atoz wrote: | | I got the implication that you did hate gays from all you have said---which is why I asked the questions---but you did not explicitly say so. |
so in HATE you delcared smdt hates when actually you had to break down and admit...he never made such a statement, only you thought, by attempting to judge his heart, he implied it....
that is bitter hate man...as you admit in your post...here...
| Quote: | Matthew 12:
34O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?
for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. |
and with your post ranting about his hate and more hate...then...?... |
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atoz
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
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To keep this peaceable, I'll refrain from some of the suggestions I have for your new name.
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Hey,
I am already all names and love all!
Bet you can't name me a name I don't already love me as!smile
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
| Quote: | I got the implication that you did hate gays from all you have said---which is why I asked the questions---but you did not explicitly say so.
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You're right, I didn't. Kinda makes you wish you had clarified that first, doesn't it?
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Kinda wish you had you had said you did love gays first!smile
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| Quote: | | 'I love gays' was the first thing you did NOT say and have not said |
Sorry. I was speaking to Christians for whom loving the sinner is axiomatic. I'll remember in the future that I need to specify these things for you.
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I am so glad to hear of that axiom!smile
You mean that the next time you speak of Hitler and etc, I shd assume that you love Hitler and Mohammed even if you don't explicitly say so?smile
That's progress!smile
U are so kind!smile
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| Quote: | Now just to prove to yourself that you do love gays and that you do not hate any gays, all you have to say is:
I love myself as all gays and so love all gays as myself!smile |
Somehow I don't feel obligated to jump through your hoops.
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Sigh.
U just said it as you read it!smile
PLus, Mike, that's God's Hoop of Hoops!smile
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| Quote: | | In Love of all words so that I love myself as all gays and so love all gays as myself, and so that I love God if He were gay, straight, hermaphroditic, asexual, neuter or whatever as myself, |
Preach it at a KKK rally where it might do some good.
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U mean you wd personally recommend me?smile
In Love of all words and so of all names, even the kkk,
atoz |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | saintmichaeldefendthem wrote:
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| Quote: | | In Love of all words so that I love myself as all gays and so love all gays as myself, and so that I love God if He were gay, straight, hermaphroditic, asexual, neuter or whatever as myself, |
| Quote: | | Preach it at a KKK rally where it might do some good. |
U mean you wd personally recommend me?smile
In Love of all words and so of all names, even the kkk,
atoz |
I would paint you black first and send you holding hands with a white woman.
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FFT
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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There's something fundamentally wrong with you.
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Brokeback Mountain says there's something fundamentally wrong with me.
I'm not sure how to take that. 
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What a stunning rhetorical riposte, sir! I say, you've cut me to the quick! The incisive thrust of your logical cutlass has struck me to the bone! Alas, I fear the wound is fatal! O, untimely death! |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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i am getting out of this one  ... |
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MoJo
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| saint wrote: | Brokeback Mountain says there's something fundamentally wrong with me.
I'm not sure how to take that. |
That's enough with the names, saint. I don't like this practice and I'm going to start coming down on people who do it. I think in giving people lots of liberty on this board that they've started to think they can say whatever they want. I'm using your post as an example, but it's a message to all, so don't come back with so and so does it.
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RevJP
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Brokeback Mountain was a good movie...
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mojo,
Done. It will never happen again.
RevJP,
Sorry, I like movies that are in sync with reality. The cowboy life was rough. Gay men would not have survived it. All liberal ideals die a harsh death in survival situations, which is why farmers are morally straight and sexual depravity only finds sanctuaries in the cities.
It also explains the Red/Blue political maps.
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What a stunning rhetorical riposte, sir! I say, you've cut me to the quick! The incisive thrust of your logical cutlass has struck me to the bone! Alas, I fear the wound is fatal! O, untimely death! |
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FFT
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | The cowboy life was rough. Gay men would not have survived it. |
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | All liberal ideals die a harsh death in survival situations |
You mean like liberating one's country from oppressors?
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | which is why farmers are morally straight |
More like they hide when they aren't of a heterosexual orientation.
Strange, you haven't substantially responded to the points I've brought up vis a vis homosexuality not being condemned by the Bible.
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | and sexual depravity only finds sanctuaries in the cities. |
Sexual orientations that differ from the norm find sanctuary in regions which aren't as bigoted against them as others, true.
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | It also explains the Red/Blue political maps. |
Just going to repeat for emphasis, there's something fundamentally wrong with you.
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Quote: | | You mean like liberating one's country from oppressors? |
Sorry, liberals like Thomas Jefferson were liberals in the literal sense. They distrusted government and did not seek to aggrandize it. No comparison to today's "liberals"
| Quote: | | You mean like liberating one's country from oppressors? |
That's what all the gay activists say. They make a pathetic attempt to say people were homosexual all the time, but just hid it. It's an easy claim to make as it requires no proof.......which is favorable to them.
| Quote: | | Strange, you haven't substantially responded to the points I've brought up vis a vis homosexuality not being condemned by the Bible. |
It depends on what you mean by homosexuality. If you mean same sex attraction, then yes you're right. But if you mean the act of sex between men and that lifestyle in general, then you're wrong.
| Quote: | Sexual orientations that differ from the norm find sanctuary in regions which aren't as bigoted against them as others, true.
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Or it proves that idle hands truly are the devil's workshop. Farmers work too hard to fool around with sexual deviancy and other foolish notions.
| Quote: | | Just going to repeat for emphasis, there's something fundamentally wrong with you |
Have you seen the map? It doesn't seem to indicate there's anything wrong with me, fundamentally or otherwise.
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What a stunning rhetorical riposte, sir! I say, you've cut me to the quick! The incisive thrust of your logical cutlass has struck me to the bone! Alas, I fear the wound is fatal! O, untimely death! |
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FFT
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | Sorry, liberals like Thomas Jefferson were liberals in the literal sense. They distrusted government and did not seek to aggrandize it. No comparison to today's "liberals" |
I am.
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | That's what all the gay activists say. They make a pathetic attempt to say people were homosexual all the time, but just hid it. It's an easy claim to make as it requires no proof.......which is favorable to them. |
Need I point out to you all the anti-homosexual politicians and preachers that have turned out to be gay?
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | It depends on what you mean by homosexuality. If you mean same sex attraction, then yes you're right. But if you mean the act of sex between men and that lifestyle in general, then you're wrong. |
Only wrong in that it's fornication if they're unmarried. The Bible does not support outright condemnation of homosexual behavior.
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | Or it proves that idle hands truly are the devil's workshop. Farmers work too hard to fool around with sexual deviancy and other foolish notions. |
You do idolize these hypothetical farmers quite a bit.
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | Have you seen the map? It doesn't seem to indicate there's anything wrong with me, fundamentally or otherwise. |
It's the leap of judgement, as well as lack of reason in your arguments that you don't seem to be aware of.
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RevJP
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Farmers work too hard to fool around with sexual deviancy and other foolish notions. |
sheep....
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FFT
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Zathrus
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| RevJP wrote: | | Quote: | | Farmers work too hard to fool around with sexual deviancy and other foolish notions. |
sheep.... |
That's one. And where did that stereotype about incest and child moestation being rampant in rural areas come from do you suppose?
Actually that is more than a stereotype. I know a pastor who spent a few years pastoring a church in rural Kentucky. The majority of girls had been sexually abused. Tragic. Much of his counseling time was devoted to victims of sexual abuse.
I'm kinda browsing through this thread, catching up. I'll just point this out:
You can't use Romans 1 to say the new testament condemns homosexuality.
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