Christians ...to Get Involved ?

Silver Surfer · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: Christians ...to Get Involved ?

I have to admit to a certain bit of curiousity about How the Christian world thinks about politics, in general.

I wonder how many people in the Christian world understand that the Mark of the Beast, which God warns people about ....will be a political issue ?

Millions of innocent people will be killed or tortured because of the men/or women they voted into office !

And, to top it off....God will hold responsible, the very individuals who voted those persons into office.

The very sins that that president (goverors, senators, ect,) commits, God will visit punishment, upon those very people who voted that person in.

IF...anyone has studied HOW God's Judgment Day works....they will know this to be true !

Pete · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:

John 18:36; Jesus answered, "My Kingdom is not of this world: If my kingdom were of this world then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

Paraphrased: "My kingdom is not of this world, If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants vote."

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 600

I have never gotten involved in politics. Too corrupt no matter who you put in office IMO.

45degreeN · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:03 am Post subject:

Like it or not we Christians are involved since we are citizens of this country. So lets not leave it to the non-Christians to determine our fate while here on Earth.

One can easily link this with the freewill vs Predestination debate. If we think that we have free will then we must be actively engaged in politics, if we dont then we might just as well leave it in God's hands.

atoz · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:16 am Post subject:

Silver Surfer · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:20 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:37 am Post subject:

That of course is the short way to heaven being killed because we take a stand for Christ. Based upon God's promise. The God's last martyrs

Rejecting the rewards of this world in favor of God's love in heaven.

Silver Surfer · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject:

The problem is that God doesn't want us to
be hermits for Christ sake isolating ourselves from innocent pleasures the puritans tried that and check out what happened (see Oliver Cromwell and his Lord protectorate which turned into a puritanical prison)

we are to be "in" the world

but not "of" the world.

P.S. rejecting guilty pleasure is one of the least efficacious means of entering heaven, since it is primarily human effort that causes us to stop those things.

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There is a UPCI preacher here in town that is on tv blasting about the evils of "tv." Razz

One of the kids in my church goes to school with his son and they go over to the preacher's house and play xbox on the tv in the son's bedroom! Go figure.

Of course, I've heard him rant and rave about all kinds of things to be legalistic (holy in his words) about but he's way obese! Wonder why I've never heard him talk about gluttony? Confused or disgusted

lone-traveler · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

It's a tough call it is. This country was founded on democracy and our being able to choose for ourselves who we put in the places of power.
It began with us believing we knew how best to choose.
And what we see today are the fruits of our ancestors choices..we bear the burdens and so will our children bear ours.

Do we trust the Lord to place those in position he chooses, or do we rely on our own choices?
I sit and I watch. and when those who are good are placed in authority I rejoice, and when those who are evil are placed in authority I mourn. But there is a time for everything under the sun. So that we will learn to choose the good and refrain from evil.

I suppose it all depends on how much one has faith in God to make those decisions and not of ourselves.

but this is only my opinion..

hugs
lone

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PrysdieHeer! · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject:

When this war, that has not started yet, is finally over, I want to become some kind of leader.
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