Trinity: Biblically supported?? I say NO WAY!!!

Steven3 · Lion King Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 1205 Location: UK

Impressive results from the poll so far, I'm pleasantly surprised:

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Steven3 · Lion King Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 1205 Location: UK

Ben Chalfant · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject:

yes, our bodies are mortal, but our souls are everlasting

Do you believe in Heaven and Hell? If you do, then think about this. If our souls are not immortal, then how will it suffer in Hell for eternity if we do not believe, and on the other hand, how can it live in Heaven for eternity if we do believe? Your soul will spend eternity in one or the other. It will never cease to exist.

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Hi Dust,

I told you, they will drive a person nut's! Now man has no soul???

You can appreciate from these intellectualism's the difficulty that Jesus faced when he began to preach spirituality to the stubborn religious minds of the Jews. It was the common people that heard Jesus gladly, the religious intellect was an obstacle to spirituality.

Dose not God put his pure spirit in man?

Anyhow, I like your signature from Neil Armstrong. I heard it said another way that you may like:

"The intellectual factors of religion are important, but their overdevelopment is likewise sometimes very handicapping and embarrassing. Religion must continually labor under a paradoxical necessity: the necessity of making effective use of thought while at the same time discounting the spiritual serviceableness of all thinking."

Colter

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 151

You're absolutely correct. What we have today, this thing we laughingly call Christianity is so far from what God tried to tell us through His Messiah, Yeshua it is a very state of affairs.
People no longer understand how important the Old Testament is to us in order to understand what was being taught by God through Yeshua. These Hebrew men, Yeshua and the Apostles knew the Old Testament scriptures so well they could quote it at will. We read these scriptures over and over again in the New Testament. The problem is because you don't read the Old Testament you can't recognize them. Think about it, the Old Testament are the very same scriptures Yeshua Himself read. He probably learned to read and write with them, and quoted from them.
Yes the New Testament has been altered to agree with the teachings of the church. Mary was a child of 15, and under Jewish law could have been stoned to death for breaking her vows to Joseph, but this is the great mirac;e. she wasn't. Did Mary ride a donkey for miles 9 months pregnant, I don't think so, but movie makers like excitment. Were there inn's in the that day, probably not. Was Joseph a carpenter, I don't see how, when there weren't many trees. Most buildings were mud brick. That's probably what he did.
These and many others are just small differences and do not alter the real message of love and forgiveness that Yeshua was sent to give. For God so loved the world that He GAVE His only begotten son that the world could be saved. He left us with two commandments, to love the Lord thy God with all your heart, and to love your neighbor as thyself. That has not changed. We are now in the so called Christmas season. Scholars today agree Yeshua could not have been born Dec. 25, this was the celebration of a Pagan Goddess, which the pagans gave to Yeshua for His birthday? I don't think He appreciated it very much. It has now become so much a part of a big money making event it doesn't even matter anymore.

luvnlife · Lion King Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1123 Location: US

Rocket: I think I must be missing your point. What does your post have to do with the Trinity?

Also, I take exception to your comments on Christmas. It doesn't matter THAT we celebrate Christmas on December 25th. It matters WHY and HOW we celebrate.

This is not the place to discuss it but I'll tell you what...you start a thread in Noahs Lounge on Christmas and why it's wrong to celebrate and I'll start a thread on why we should celebrate it. My thread will focus on how myself and others on this board honor this occasion and remember our Lord.

Are you up for it? Let me know.

Luv

Dust · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject:

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Thanks Dust,

It was widely believed in Judaism that the soul "lingered" until the third day after death, then departed. That is the significance of "the third day" with Jesus' death. This was also the reason that Lazerus's family was hesitant for Jesus to raise him from the dead after the third day.

Colter

luvnlife · Lion King Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1123 Location: US