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Trinity: Biblically supported?? I say NO WAY!!!


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Do you believe in the Holy Trinity? Why or why not?
Yes, I believe in the Trinity (and this is why..)
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No, I don't believe in the Trinity (and here's why)
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I'm not sure if I believe or not (here are my questions)
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JimD
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

composer2005 wrote:
The trinity doctrine was even forced upon all possible using death sentence Laws and torture if you refused to yield.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

[quote="composer2005"][quote]The trinity doctrine was even forced upon all possible using death sentence Laws and torture if you refused to yield.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

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composer The trinity doctrine was even forced upon all possible using death sentence Laws and torture if you refused to yield.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

Composer Wrote: [quote]The trinity doctrine was even forced upon all possible using death sentence Laws and torture if you refused to yield.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: trinity discussion Reply with quote

composer2005 wrote:
The trinity doctrine was even forced upon all possible using death sentence Laws and torture if you refused to yield. (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56264)Now thats real strange behaviour for a christian, would'nt you say?

Just goes to show there are 'false christians' (e.g. early trinitarians and their resultant non-original violent doctrine) who need threats and Laws imposed of death and torture to make their voice heard and conversely genuine Christians, who prefer to allow God's Word to speak for itself.
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Ben Chalfant
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to describe it in this way, as this is how I have come to understand it: We as humans have a soul, which resides in our physical bodies. We also have a conscience, which I believe is probably our soul's voice, but I admit that is merely speculation. Regardless, even though we are made up of these things, we still exist as one being. Not two, or three, but just one. Jesus also has these parts to him. He has a soul, the Father, which dwells in him. Jesus is the temple of God. The Holy Ghost, which is translated as meaning " a Holy Breath from God, is in the body of Jesus. But Jesus is still only one being. This is not trinity, as some have accused it of being, the beliefs of trinity are that Jesus and God and the Holy Ghost are 3 seperate beings. Bitterlily did a wonderful job of showing that in her post. Nice job!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Chalfant wrote:
I like to describe it in this way, as this is how I have come to understand it: We as humans have a soul, which resides in our physical bodies.

Perhaps you could share what you understand about this 'soul' and the Scriptural evidence to support you?

Thanks
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Ben Chalfant
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those of you that believe Humans have a soul, and are not empty shells, please stand up.
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Ben Chalfant
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

All powerful, isn't he? Wink

Would you like more scriptural proof of the human soul, Mr. Composer?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

This passage must be corrupt also, if we don't have a soul.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds pretty simple to me, 1 body & 1 spirit= 1 soul. Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ec 12:7 then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.
(NAS95) The reverse process, no more soul until we get the new body.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soul - the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just read the entire thread....I must say, bitterlily's commentary stands out!....I suggest that all read it, and re-read it, research it, study it, and gain a full understanding of it.

Good job bitterlily, good job!
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