Bible Knowledge is ....EVERYTHING for Children !

Silver Surfer

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

'forget thy children' ?
WHY would God say that ?

Because it is the parents responsibility to teach their own children about God, and the principles of Holy Living.

There is a Bible verse which very few have read, and understand even less......
[color=blue] Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
The point is....it is the parents responsibility to train the child......not someone else.

Parents fail to realize their responsibilties towards their children characters.....the characters, which will fit them for heaven.

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Silver Surfer

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I agree with what you have said. With that in mind, I also assert that it is a Pastor's responsibility to teach and preach truth to his flock. Acts 20:28 (YLT) `"Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit made you overseers, to feed the assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood,"

1 Peter 5:2 (YLT) feed the flock of God that is among you, overseeing not constrainedly, but willingly, neither for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind,

There will be those who will seek to come into our churches to lead astray the membership into false and perverse doctrine: Acts 20:29 (YLT) "for I have known this, that there shall enter in, after my departing, grievous wolves unto you, not sparing the flock,"

I totally agree with you that the Pastor cannot be the only source of learning and knowledge for the congregation. It is the responsibility of every believer to study and learn the Word of God.

I also know that even in my own church, there are some who do not practice this on a regular, daily basis. It is my responsibility to admonish and encourage them to do so. It is also my responsibility to make sure that when their children come to Bible Study on Sundays and Wednesdays and other times during the week, that I make sure that they have opportunities to hear and study the Word of God. That is all I can do (except pray for them of course!) God bless.

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Silver Surfer · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject:

Hi Silver,

When God speaks to us through his teachers..let's say Peter for instance..
and the Lord say to Peter:

Act 10:15 And the voice [spake] unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, [that] call not thou common.
and this Peter came to realize that God was speaking concerning Gentiles who were not under the Mosaic law.
Is this correct?

If God calls those things which we perceive as unclean, clean..and we don't have all the answers because God's ways are not our ways..
then how do we teach our children the difference between clean and unclean if God himself has made those unclean things clean?

When we judge or condemn others of uncleaness, which is by interpretation..not keeping with the law,
then we ourselves become unclean by the very act of judging others when we are told not to judge.

God's law says that we are to love eachother and judge not lest ye be judged. We make ourselves judges of the law forgetting that there is already a judge. And this judge is God himself.

And there are many many things God created to be able to judge men by. Our acceptance of eachother regardless of their heritage. Our love and acceptance of eachother even when they don't agree with us.
Our willingness to lay down our authority over God's law and give it back to God who owns it, who created it, who made it for his purpose and not our own,and is able to change it at anytime it pleases him to do so.

If God wants someone to do this...then he will convict them in their heart to do this..
If God wants someone to do that..then he will convict them in their heart to do that..

But ours is not to judge..but to love eachother and accept eachother regardless of how God leads all his children.
Please remember..God created Jews and Gentiles..and both have been proclaimed clean in his sight. Whether those who are under the law are led by it, or those who are not under the law and not led by it..
It is God's awesome and beautiful spirit which leads all of us to him.
Please don't stand in the "way" of those who are being led to find God and to be led by Him..because of a law which God created for himself to judge by.
That "angel" who protected "the way" of the tree of Life, the one who, God placed "in the way", Jesus is that angel, and he is the door. And he allows those whom he chooses to enter in..not us.
Whether they be harlots and publicans or just and righteous men..It is God who calls. And we are to walk "with" and not "against" our brothers and sisters whom God has called.

Love all of God's children..Jew or Gentile or Greek or Barbarian..good, evil, male female..sabbath day keepers and non-sabbath day keepers..
Because it's not "in the world" that God loves or judges Silver..it's by the truth and intent that are in the hearts and minds.

To say, you don't love God because you do or don't do this or that in the world..doesn't mean that they don't love God not by the works in the world, but the very works which are not in the world..which is..in their hearts.
It is not ours to judge the works of others..but to discern and to discover eachother by the fruits we bear.

Listen..
Do you judge yourself worthy and sinless enough to cast the first stone...remembering that in your time you deserved the stones thrown at you, yet God in his mercy made those who would accuse you to fall away and not be found..?
God found mercy for your soul even when you were walking in sin..and so it is by God's good grace that he allows us to extend the hand of peace and not the hand of condemnation to others of which he has called.

Don't judge others by their appearances Silver..rather don't judge at all..but be observers of the fruit they bear and look for good, refrain from evil and you will see the fruit blossom in front of your very eyes.
We don't create the fruit and we don't create the blessings,, God does this through and by whomsoever he has called..
whether we call them unclean..God has said, they have been cleansed..
Let there be peace on earth..and let it begin with me.
Isn't this the message we aught to be teaching our children?
To love one another as God loves us?

You know I say this with all my heart Silver,
God Bless
Lone

There are many many things which God made to judge men by, but the judgment is not in our hands it is in God's.
And remebering this..That one of the things God made to judge men by, is the very ability within ourselves to judge eachother.
If judging others is in your power to do this..consider this a ver special and powerful gift..and yet how you use it, how you apply it..with the same measure and application you judge others by, you too will be judged.
If you do not want to be judged by your own standards in which you judge..then better it is not to judge at all.
And let God who is the judge of righteousness and truth judge us all according to his mercy and his love and his grace.

(sorry,that was a ramble for sure.. Embarassed

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Ana · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:57 am Post subject:

Silver Surfer is right, though.

At least then, the parents are doing it themselves and not expecting the state to do it, and leaving other people's children out of it.

On a related note, though, I think if some parents want to homeschool their children, they (the parents, I should clarify) should pass a test of some sort, just to make sure they teach their children the appropriate basics (the children should have to pass some sort of tests too, I think). It's their right to raise their children how they wish, but it is definitely in the child's best interests to learn as much as they can, and if the parents aren't up to the task, they should leave it to professionals (which could very well lead to massive off-topic-ness if we consider the public schools).

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