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Pete
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Location: Arlington Hts., Il. USA
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| beloved57 wrote: |
I dont see where you have faith in God at all , but your own natural understanding of things you do not understand..
Biblical fellowship is based upon right doctrine : |
If you will notice, I quoted the doctrine of Christ given through John - not my doctrine. Obviously you prefer the unbiblical, man-made, trinitarian doctrine of popes. |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Pete wrote: | | beloved57 wrote: |
I dont see where you have faith in God at all , but your own natural understanding of things you do not understand..
Biblical fellowship is based upon right doctrine : |
If you will notice, I quoted the doctrine of Christ given through John - not my doctrine. Obviously you prefer the unbiblical, man-made, trinitarian doctrine of popes. |
I am not interested in dialouging with you pete, believe what you will, I will see you at the judgment.. |
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Pete
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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My Purpose is not to dialogue with you. My concern is that there are a lot of lurkers out there that read your kind of unbiblical nonsense and may be influenced by it, and won't take the time to check it out.
I only want to present some facts that will encourage them to do so. To these I say, don't believe everything you hear. You have to do some research, since there is a lot of Bible twisting going on out there, from Trinitarian paganism to OT legalism.
Speaking of paganism, some kids are outside in devilish outfits celebrating the Trinitarian "Hallowed Evening". Yikes! |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Pete wrote: | My Purpose is not to dialogue with you. My concern is that there are a lot of lurkers out there that read your kind of unbiblical nonsense and may be influenced by it, and won't take the time to check it out.
I only want to present some facts that will encourage them to do so. To these I say, don't believe everything you hear. You have to do some research, since there is a lot of Bible twisting going on out there, from Trinitarian paganism to OT legalism.
Speaking of paganism, some kids are outside in devilish outfits celebrating the Trinitarian "Hallowed Evening". Yikes! |
Dont worry , its impossible for Gods elect to be successufully decieved..
matt 24:
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  |
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Pete
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Location: Arlington Hts., Il. USA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| beloved57 wrote: |
Dont worry , its impossible for Gods elect to be successufully decieved..
matt 24:
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. :wink: |
If "God's elect" are Trinitarian, they are already deceived. |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Pete wrote: | | beloved57 wrote: |
Dont worry , its impossible for Gods elect to be successufully decieved..
matt 24:
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. |
If "God's elect" are Trinitarian, they are already deceived. |
We will see ya at the judgment .. |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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Joined: 21 Aug 2007
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Location: Boise, Idaho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's a natural tendency for people to gravitate toward others who are like minded for fellowship. That's why we have denominations, and it really isn't a bad thing.
What is bad is when we hang the salvation of others on adherence to our dogmas, as if entry into heaven was contingent on a religious SAT exam. It is wrong to presume the salvation of others, even our own. The Bible tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, not smug arrogance.
The correct view toward salvation can only be summed up by two words....."God decides." Period. Anything else is prideful. Anything else is an attempt to bind God to our feeble perceptions. Anything else is saying, "We decide."
In the Sacred Heart of Christ |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | It's a natural tendency for people to gravitate toward others who are like minded for fellowship. That's why we have denominations, and it really isn't a bad thing.
What is bad is when we hang the salvation of others on adherence to our dogmas, as if entry into heaven was contingent on a religious SAT exam. It is wrong to presume the salvation of others, even our own. The Bible tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, not smug arrogance.
The correct view toward salvation can only be summed up by two words....."God decides." Period. Anything else is prideful. Anything else is an attempt to bind God to our feeble perceptions. Anything else is saying, "We decide."
In the Sacred Heart of Christ |
You can only fellowship with the truth , all denominations of today are under the reign of anti christ, God has called his true people out of the *One Who Practices the World's Oldest Profession*..
Speaking of prideful , the anti christ dogma is built upon mans pride , mans decision is ultimatetly what decides salvation..The epitome of pride. |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | You can only fellowship with the truth , all denominations of today are under the reign of anti christ, God has called his true people out of the *One Who Practices the World's Oldest Profession*..
Speaking of prideful , the anti christ dogma is built upon mans pride , mans decision is ultimatetly what decides salvation..The epitome of pride. |
Wow! How very incompetant of God to let His people be led so far astray. How incompetant of Christ to promise the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church and not bring that prophesy to pass.
Are you in the same cult as Gwen Shamblin? She says a lot of the same things.
Blessed be God. Blessed be his holy Name. |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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not a bad post beloved...though the catholic cult might have something to rail about i am sure...  |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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sm ask:
| Quote: | | Are you in the same cult as Gwen Shamblin? She says a lot of the same things. |
Never heard of Her. But If you reject the Gospel and go to those God Foresaken Churches , If God does not call you out, it does not look good for you.. |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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Thankfully God will make that decision, not prideful arrogant bigots. You haven't the faintest clue who's going to heaven or not, and you may be surprised at the decisions God makes. If you don't bow before the infinite wisdom of God and humble yourself before Him, and recognize that He alone holds the fate of human souls, what will He say to you on that day?
Dominus Flevit |
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beloved57
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | Thankfully God will make that decision, not prideful arrogant bigots. You haven't the faintest clue who's going to heaven or not, and you may be surprised at the decisions God makes. If you don't bow before the infinite wisdom of God and humble yourself before Him, and recognize that He alone holds the fate of human souls, what will He say to you on that day?
Dominus Flevit |
I know this , whoever is in wicked christiandom the harlot , will be condemned when christ comes according to scripture..
rev 18:
1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
20Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
22And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
This is the fate of your denominational religons of the world who reject God and His truth...
Also 2 thess 2
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
This describes the fate of your precious denominations, But God has called His beloved ones out of that filth..
Vs 13
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. |
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Pete
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Location: Arlington Hts., Il. USA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | Thankfully God will make that decision, not prideful arrogant bigots. You haven't the faintest clue who's going to heaven or not, and you may be surprised at the decisions God makes. If you don't bow before the infinite wisdom of God and humble yourself before Him, and recognize that He alone holds the fate of human souls, what will He say to you on that day?
Dominus Flevit |
This is an interesting statement, coming from a Roman Catholic Trinitarian.
The Athanasian Creed opens with this statement: "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the true Catholic faith.
And the true Catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in unity."
Also popes of the past have stated that unless one genuflects before the pope he will burn in hell.
According to Catholic teaching, it is the pope, not God, who decides who will be saved and who will be condemned. |
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Pete
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Over the centuries, the battle cry of the Roman Church has been Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, Outside the Church there is no salvation.
This statement in recent church dialogue, has been modified to a PR campaign of "Bringing the departed children (Protestants) back to the Mother Church." The Vatican has apparently decided that in this sophisticated age, devious shmoozing, "Come home to Mama,"works better than confrontation.
They may be right. |
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