God doesn't believe in atheists, so atheists don't exist.

atoz

Is the statement that

"God doesn't believe in atheists,
therefore atheists don't exist,"

an equivalent of the opposite statement:

"Atheists do not believe in God,
therefore God doesn't exist."? smile

with Love and Respect for who exists and who doesn't exist,
atoz

lone-traveler · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject:

Sometimes those who believe they don't have something turn out to be the one's with the most of it.

Wink

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lone

FFT · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject:

Atheists lack belief in God because they see no evidence for Him.

A god that was unaware of those who did not believe in him wouldn't be much of a god at all.

lone-traveler · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

Hey FFT!
Boy I missed you... Very Happy

Have you looked in the mirror lately...?

Do you see you?

Well, you are looking at the image and likeness of God.

To deny God is to deny one's own existence.

For as he is, so are we in the world.

I believe in you! Do you?

Hugs
Lone

FFT · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:18 am Post subject:

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Forum,

Proponents of the doctrines of doubt are confronted with a dilemma of their own, they are unable to prove that their is not a God, so their disbelief becomes a faith. It's a faith in the meaninglessness of life until proven otherwise, even to the denial of having the vantage point to make such a "supermaterial" observation.

"To say that mind "emerged" from matter explains nothing. If the universe were merely a mechanism and mind were unapart from matter, we would never have two differing interpretations of any observed phenomenon. The concepts of truth, beauty, and goodness are not inherent in either physics or chemistry. A machine cannot know, much less know truth, hunger for righteousness, and cherish goodness." UB

All of mathematics, philosophy, physics or chemistry would be unable to PREDICT that the union of of two gaseous hydrogen atoms with one gaseous oxygen atom would result in a new and qualitatively superadditive substance--liquid water. "The understanding knowledge of this one physiochemical phenomenon should have prevented the development of materialistic philosophy and mechanistic cosmology."

"Technical analysis does not reveal what a person or a thing can do. For example: Water is used effectively to extinguish fire. That water will put out fire is a fact of everyday experience, but no analysis of water could ever be made to disclose such a property. Analysis determines that water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen; a further study of these elements discloses that oxygen is the real supporter of combustion and that hydrogen will itself freely burn."

If he stands at the door of our hearts and knocks, what is the door? It's man insisting that he is a thing and not a being. The mechanist then has his own superstition to contend with.

Colter

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:

ok FFT,

here's one way of looking at faith and seeing the evidence of it.

Your parents come together "hoping" for a baby.
They have "faith" that their coming together will produce a baby.
You are the "evidence" of their faith their hope of something unseen.

Hbr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

you are your own evidence...

hugs
lone

atoz · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject:

atoz · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Wink

FFT · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

who founded atheism?
who laid the groundwork as to what an athiest is?
are there rules or laws for being an athiest?

FFT · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

Atheism doesn't have a founder. It's not in any way organized. Which leads to issues with your second point, as it's atheists that define what they are. As to rules or laws, it depends on the atheist. For myself, I've got a sort of empowered nihilism with a splash of utilitarianism.

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:

then you are your own God. You follow your heart, your mind, and your soul..right?

You listen to the thoughts in your head, you go by the feelings in your heart...

Deu 6:14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which [are] round about you;

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

what is a child of the most High?

a child of Love.

you have love in you? then you are a child of that love.

hugs
lone

FFT · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: