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Adam_Love
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: The God Delusion Reply with quote
Has anybody here read Richard Dawkin's book 'The God Delusion'?

I'm about half way through.. Just wondering what you guys thought of it..
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admin
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I read it several months ago and highly recommend it, I thought iwas very good. I digested it slowly over several months and finally did skip the last sections - found the first 3/4 more interesting to me.

It seems like people are either Dawkins fans or really don't care for his writings - haven't seen many in between.
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Adam_Love
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glad you liked it.

I think I am somewhere in between with Dawkins.

He is a good author, and he has a good way of explaining things. I just found the book to be too negative.

I was hoping the book would focus more on an actual belief in God, and how God could not possibly exist, and instead, he mainly focused on why he thought religion is evil.

I feel like I learned a lot form it, though. Just nothing that really changed my beliefs about God or religion.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really? I found the book to be full of information and specifics.
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ShardikSon
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I read the first chapter, so far.

I perceive that most atheists have rejected the idea of God, because they have rejected religion.

Then they build a religion around the idea of no God.

The way I see it, even God rejects religion, but most humans cling to it, in one form or another.

Most curious.
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FFT
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ShardikSon wrote:
I perceive that most atheists have rejected the idea of God, because they have rejected religion.

Then they build a religion around the idea of no God.
That's ... not really how it works.
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ShardikSon wrote:
I read the first chapter, so far.

I perceive that most atheists have rejected the idea of God, because they have rejected religion.

Then they build a religion around the idea of no God.


This is an oxymoron. How can you have a religion without at least some kind of god or some mysticism?

The term 'atheist' is also a poor term. First of all, there shouldn't be a word to describe people who refuse to believe in religious entities based on insufficient evidence. We don't have words for describing non-astrologers or non-crystal channelers. Why should there even be a word for describing people who refuse to accept fantastical claims about deities which are completely devoid of evidence?

But secondly, to call someone an 'atheist' somehow suggests that this is an end in and of itself. I am not an atheist because I reject religion. I think I speak for a whole lot of atheists out there when I say that I am an atheist because first and foremost I am rational/logical/scientific. I require good reasons for believing things, and far-fetched things require the best reasons/evidence of all. Logic and reason and science demand that we reject all claims which are based on insufficient evidence, and especially so if the claims are fantastical.

So first and foremost I am a rational thinker who demands good reasons for believing things. I am not an atheist because I have rejected religion or God. I am an atheist because I demand rational reasons for believing things.
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