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Bouncer
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 Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: Creationism Science? No say Morris and Gish |
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http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/theory.htm
The Web site provides several quotes from the works of Creationist icons Morris and Gish
Some examples:
1. Creation cannot be proved
2. Creation . . . is inaccessible to the scientific method.
3. It is impossible to devise a scientific experiment to describe the creation process, or even to ascertain whether such a process can take place.
4. Creation is, of course, unproven and unproveable by the methods of experimental science. Neither can it qualify, according to the above criteria, as a scientific theory, since creation would have been unobservable and would as a theory be nonfalsifiable."
5. We do not know how the Creator created, what processes He used, for He used processes which are not now operating anywhere in the natural universe. . . .
6. We cannot discover by scientific investigations anything about the creative processes used by the Creator.
Ironically, it came from a YEC who thought the site was devoted to bashing Evolution. SURPRISE!!
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Joebob787
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Evolution goes against the laws Physics.
Evolution is based on Chance.
The Theory of the Big bang is a load of speculation and Chance.
If all the Matter was in the Super Planet, What split it?
How did that matter get there in the first place.
Also, Explain to me how the Bible knew about the Water cycle before science developed it?
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Why don't the evolutionists stop studying and just read the bible. How many hundreds of years will they keep researching in vain?
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Bouncer
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Joebob787 wrote: | Evolution goes against the laws Physics.
Evolution is based on Chance.
The Theory of the Big bang is a load of speculation and Chance.
If all the Matter was in the Super Planet, What split it?
How did that matter get there in the first place.
Also, Explain to me how the Bible knew about the Water cycle before science developed it? |
Youre a big boy and you can't find this information?
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Bouncer
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| admin wrote: | | Why don't the evolutionists stop studying and just read the bible. How many hundreds of years will they keep researching in vain? |
It's all you ever need Brother Admin
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ragman13
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Did any of you get a chance to check this out?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369549,00.html
| Quote: | | MOUNT VERNON, Ohio — A public school teacher taught creationism in his science class and used a device to burn the image of a cross on students' arms, according to a report by independent investigators. |
Yeah this is just great this is all we need. Thanks teach!
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Joebob787
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Bouncer, Im asking you for the answers. I have already learned them in the "fine" science class of public schools.But i am asking for your opinion.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Start your own thread. |
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| Joebob787 wrote: | | Bouncer, Im asking you for the answers. I have already learned them in the "fine" science class of public schools.But i am asking for your opinion. |
If youre asking me for the answers you obviously weren't paying attention to 'them.' Also if you learned 'them' in school you still ask these questions borrowed from a second or third tier Creationist site you didn't understand what you were presented with.
You want to comment on the deceipt of the creationists, defend Morris and/or Gish go ahead. But don't clutter my thread with this nonsense.
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Joebob787
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Please explain How only 1 type of Evolution can be observed but the other 5 Cant?
Please explain How this universe came from Nothing like evolutionist say.
Please explain why Early man was technically Smarter than us.
Please explain why all fossils that have been "claimed" to be proof for evolution are proved false.
I would like your opinion of each on these Questions please
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Joebob787 wrote: | Please explain How only 1 type of Evolution can be observed but the other 5 Cant?
Please explain How this universe came from Nothing like evolutionist say.
Please explain why Early man was technically Smarter than us.
Please explain why all fossils that have been "claimed" to be proof for evolution are proved false.
I would like your opinion of each on these Questions please |
Where are you getting this from?
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Joebob787
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What do you care where am i'm getting this from?
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Prematurely aggressive?
I wondered why you think these things you are saying are true. What, in your opinion, are 'the six types of evolution'? I want to know where you got the idea that 'Early man was technically Smarter than us' - especially considering 'smartness' is a subjective term. By what yardstick is 'Early man' smarter than us, and for that matter, what exactly are you referring to when you say 'Early man'? I also want to know how you substantiate your claim that 'all fossils that have been "claimed" to be proof for evolution are proved false'.
I think that at least one of these ideas came from Kent Hovind, but the others are so imprecise I don't really know quite what you're talking about. Therefore, I want to know where you are getting these ideas from. Is this in any way a problem for you?
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Prematurely aggressive?
Perhaps just reflectively responsive to the attitude of the posts he's received from bouncer...
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Humans have been getting dumber and dumber. We know only have access to 10% of our brain. Its been decaying throughout history. So, that means early man had to have aleast more than 10%. maybe around 80%
Here are the 6 types of evolution
1. Cosmic evolution- the origin of time, space and matter. Big Bang.
2. Chemical evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar and planetary evolution- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic evolution- Origin of life from inanimate matter.
5. Macroevolution- Origin of major kinds.
6. Microevolution Variations within kinds- Only this one has been observed, the first five haven't.
Lets see. "Lucy" was proved false. "piltman" was proved false. Their are others but i can't remember all of them.
Kent Hovind gave me the idea of the 6 types of evolution . thats it
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I know you didn't just say 'Kent Hovind'...
Now the storm begins... 
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