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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Grace Reply with quote

Grace Teaches Us to Say No
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live
soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.

Titus 2:11,12

God's grace means that we've been liberated from the guilt of our past sins and made free to do what is right in the present. It does not mean that we are free to do anything we please. To those who might see grace in this kind of permissive way, Paul asked, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?" (Romans 6:1,2). Grace means that we have "died to sin," and if we are sincere in seeking God, then this is a truth that we must take very seriously.

There is a difference between "freedom" and "licentiousness." Our English word "licentiousness," like its cousin "license," comes from the Latin licentia, which meant freedom. But licentiousness is not true freedom; it is nothing more than the lack of restraint. It is the stolen freedom of the person who disregards the rules of reality and throws discipline to the wind. But because licentious conduct respects no standards except those of its own pleasure, its effect is not to liberate but to enslave. Speaking of those who taught that God's grace confers the freedom to engage in immoral conduct, Peter wrote, "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage" (2 Peter 2:19).

There is no way around the fact that there are some "Thou shalt nots" in the Scriptures. Grace does not mean that we never have to say no -- it means that we say no to the things that we should say no to in life. Teaching us to "deny ungodliness," grace says that "we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age." And, in this sense, grace is the most powerfully motivating force in the world. Forgiven of our past acts of rebellion against God's love, we respond gratefully. We never lose our healthy respect for God's justice, but we learn to keep God's law primarily out of love and appreciation for Him. This is "renunciation" in the very highest and greatest sense, and it is by no means an impediment on our freedom. It is simply the kind of commitment that is willing to make sacrifices for the sake of love, the love of and for God and truth.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Grace Reply with quote

pastor2022 wrote:


Grace Teaches Us to Say No

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We never lose our healthy respect for God's justice, but we learn to keep God's law primarily out of love and appreciation for Him. This is "renunciation" in the very highest and greatest sense, and it is by no means an impediment on our freedom. It is simply the kind of commitment that is willing to make sacrifices for the sake of love, the love of and for God and truth.


Hi P2022,

Thanx again for your supply of good stuff!

My comment is:

It is as bad and worse to say
'yes, let's do good that grace may abound & for us to be loved,'
where being good is the condition for grace & being loved since God loves good people, Luke 18:9-14
as it is to say
'no, let's do bad that grace may abound & for us to be loved since God loves bad people,'
where being bad is the condition for grace & being loved since God loves bad people!

Based on God's Supreme Law in Mt 22:36-40,
it shd be at all times:
Let's have God's Love in mind,
let's be in Unconditional Love at all times,
let's be in Jesus' loving attitude and spirit at all times for the good and the bad
so we wd know
when to be good & kind in Love, and to say 'Yes' in Love
and
when to be bad & rude in Love, and to say 'No' in Love.

Psalm 18:
25With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;

26With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure;
and with the froward [who are froward in Hate] thou wilt shew thyself froward [in Love].

God's Love teaches us
to say 'No' in Love of 'yes,'
and
to say 'Yes' in Love of 'no.'

God loves us to spank us in Love and to bless us in Love.
Hebrews 12:5-7. Leviticus 26 & Deuteronomy 28.

O God, I could be bounded in a nutshell
and [still] count myself a king of infinite space,

were it not that I have bad dreams.
Hamlet [II, 2]

In the Grace of Love for freedom & slavery, for the freedmen and the slaves,
which Love makes us doubly free in freedom,
and
which Love makes still free even in slavery,
2 Cor 12:9-10
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