London-stan?

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Attention... this is the Captain speaking. We will be landing in the Londonstan's Mohamed International in 20 minutes. Please return to your seats, fasten your seat belts, place your chairs in the upright position, and women, put on your Berkas. Allah Akbar... Have a nice day.

This is NOT GOOD
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Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1508

Yeah, there appeasement policies (a snap-shot of the US shortly at the rate we're heading in) aren't working...hmmmm.

Did you see the article regarding the 9 Muslims (8 were 1st generation Brits born of Pakistani immigrants) that plotted to kidnap a British Muslim soldier...video tape his plea for life unless Blair pulls all British troops out of Iraq/Afghanistan...and then cut his head off anyway....

So, let's recap:

- Shoebomber (foiled by stewardess on airplane)
- 7/7 Bombings (3/4 successful)
- Airline waterbottle plot (foiled by Scotland Yard)
- kidnap plot (foiled)

Throughout, their gov't has taken huge steps to accomidate the Muslim population...including relocating the toilets in some of their prisons so that the inmates don't have to face Mecca when they poo. Rolling Eyes

Think they'll figure out that you can't accommidate someone that only sees that weakness and an opportunity to press the advantage?
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P1234567890 · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:

I think that there is an argument to be made that Islam is an inherently violent religion which is unfriendly towards all others. It is even less tolerant than Christianity, and that's saying something!

Even here in Canada we had our terror plot which was foiled here in Toronto.
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Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Wow... S-H-I-T-E Muslims got hit by the censor. Embarassed

I knew that their crediability was pretty much shot... but this is a little rediculous. Laughing

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Exodus 20:11 "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them..."

‘The German Führer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution.’ Sir Arthur Keith

P1234567890 · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1508

Secular humanism...it's a 20th century term non-religious based morality that appeals to the general good vice personal gain at any cost...

Secular humanism describes a world view with the following elements and principles:

Need to test beliefs - A conviction that dogmas, ideologies and traditions, whether religious, political or social, must be weighed and tested by each individual and not simply accepted on faith.
Reason, evidence, scientific method - Commitment to the use of critical reason, factual evidence, and scientific methods of inquiry, rather than faith and mysticism, in seeking solutions to human problems and answers to important human questions.
Fulfillment, growth, creativity - A primary concern with fulfillment, growth, and creativity for both the individual and humankind in general.
Search for truth - A constant search for objective truth, with the understanding that new knowledge and experience constantly alter our imperfect perception of it.
This life - A concern for this life and a commitment to making it meaningful through better understanding of ourselves, our history, our intellectual and artistic achievements, and the outlooks of those who differ from us.
Ethics - A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.
Building a better world - A conviction that with reason, an open exchange of ideas, good will, and tolerance, progress can be made in building a better world for ourselves and our children.

From good ol' wikipedia Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism
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FFT · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject:

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:07 am Post subject:

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

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P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:26 am Post subject:

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1508

Trinity,

Stalin isn't the best example...First, he was totalitarian...a monarch in all respects of power. Majority rule doesn't apply either becuase a minority (the senior party leadership) decides what's best for all.

The real crux of secular humanism is that aspect of "greatest good for the greatest number WHILE preserving the rights of the individual"...It really is a distinguishing mark that I think you're overlooking.

Religious morality does provide a final arbiter (all will be judged by God/Nirvana/Seth) for the afterlife, but doesn't really provide any concrete authority in the temporal world. The facts play out that human social norms largely drive individual and collective behaviors (what will I be punished/ostricized for vice what will I be reward/loved for).
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