is the earth expanding?

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: is the earth expanding?

I was just doing a study on the feast days and found that when catastrophe happens it usually occurs around the spring.

I'm working backwards from the crucifixion, to the passover, to the destruction of Sodom.
And I thought what great catastophe happened before Sodom?
The flood.
Then I thought...it seems as though the farther you go back in time the bigger the catastrophes were...
Then I thought what if the catastrophes appeared larger because the earth was actually smaller?

Then came to mind how all the earth was one land and over time the plates moved causing earthquakes and dividing up the land mass.

I then thought that the earth is like a seed that the shell is being cracked open and its spreading or growing like a tree does.

are we busting out at the seams?

does anybody know if the earth has increased in size at all. I should say circumfrence of the planet and not the earth/land itself.

because the land mass actually gets smaller as they divide and the seas get bigger.

If we keep having divisions and earthquakes will the land get swallowed up by the overflowing of the seas, causing another total flood, as in the days of noah?

just thinking out loud..

and curious as to when earthquakes take place, do they happen more in any one season than another? or do they just happen randomly?
is there any kind of sequence?

Do earthquakes and the bible have anything in common? can we know by the signs of the times when catastrophes will occur?

thanks
lone
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FFT · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject:

The Earth itself hasn't been expanding, the human population on it has.

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: is the earth expanding?

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject:

thanks FFT and P#s...

if I consider this allegorically and seas are unbelievers and land is believers, then when I think of floods and earthquakes this is how
i see it.

so to say that there are more people and less space, or that the flood didn't cover the entire planet but a certain parcel of land, then it makes a lot more sense to me.

those that didn't believe in God overflowed those that did, except those that did were given a way to escape.

does this make sense to you?
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cballard · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 728 Location: WV

I think sciene shows actually that the universe is getting smaller and it will be swallowed by a black hole if everything follows the particular pattern the earth seems to be on. I could be wrong on that. Whatever it is, it is on God's plan and I don't worry about it.
Lone, I agree with your analysis of the Biblical story. I also see Noah's salvation in the flood as a foreshadowing of the N.T. saving by the water of baptism. Somewhere, I think in one of Peter's epistles, it connects these two ideas.

lone-traveler · Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:

hi cballard,

I see a similarity between the flood and Noah being brought into an Ark and the earth cleansed and then he landed on dry ground, a new land to,

People coming out of Europe and coming over on the ships 3 of them even, hmm, and finding a new land.
I'm thinking that why the Indians were set up for judgment day is because they worshipped the buffalo, and the eagle, animals, and that even they knew in time past that they who honour such things and bow down and worship them will be punished.

And we were the plague that came to wipe them out, and to start fresh with a new earth. When we began our government it was with the words, one nation under God.

We prospered we grew, we conquered , we brought war, we brought famine to the Indians by killing their livelyhood, their buffalo, we have torn up the land and poluted it, and on the other hand it has grown fat, and at times we have helped others but not without expecting their allegience to us, we brought death to a race of men.

But this was done so that prophecy could be fulfilled.

Now it's going to turn on our own heads. Look at us. Really look. If you were looking down from heaven could you honestly say you wouldn't be absolutely wroth with us?

So now we all shiver and shake wondering when doom is going to strike, because we know we've screwed up and it's time to pay the piper. And God himself has told us why these things happen and how we can avoid it.

But nobody wants to give up the fat, they like their fat pockets, their fat bellies, their fat houses, while others suffer without any mercy.

There are many here that truly care and truly love their neighbor, but their are more that don't blink an eye, they turn the other way, someone else will fix the problem.

aye Amen, someone else will fix the problem, but we're not going to like the cure, that's for sure.

You know whatsoever a man sows thats what he reaps....
You think a country is any different?

Time to Repent people.

History repeats itself, the bible proves it.
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lone-traveler · Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:

Well trinity1,

Gen 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
Gen 9:9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
Gen 9:10 And with every living creature that [is] with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Gen 9:12 And God said, This [is] the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that [is] with you, for perpetual generations:
Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
Gen 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which [is] between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that [is] upon the earth.
Gen 9:17 And God said unto Noah, This [is] the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that [is] upon the earth.

God doesn't say he'll never send another flood, but he does promise not to destroy ALL Flesh or to destroy the earth.

So if another flood does occur and it won't destroy the earth and all flesh, then what kind of flood will it be?

Because Jesus says:

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
Mat 24:46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Mat 24:47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

when the flood comes then we aught to be prepared no?
some will be and some won't.
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Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

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cballard · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 728 Location: WV

Sounds like hell to me.

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