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Van
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject: Born in the USA Reply with quote

All persons born in the United States or naturalized have the right to life, liberty and property. But is born the past tense of “birth” or the past tense of “bear”? And does birth mean the beginning of existence or passage out of the uterus? Born means “brought into life or being.” But the Justices found that the Constitution did not protect the in uterus baby, finding that the little tyke is not a person. The Justices apparently chose to find that born is not the past tense of bear, what a mother does during pregnancy to support the baby’s needs. Nor did they find that Born is the past tense of Birth, meaning brought to life at conception. No. The Court found that born means birth and birth means passage out of the uterus, and thus they apparently denied personhood to a crying baby because her head is still touching the birth canal. But what did the founders intend? They were trying to be inclusive and they clearly did not intend to exclude and leave unprotected the smallest humans.
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Nobby
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:17 pm    Post subject: Born in the USA Reply with quote

Van, It is nothing short of murder to kill a new baby because it's still touching the birth canal! "PBA" Partial-Birth-Abortion! It's sick!!
Ps: My thoughts go much deeper than that, but I best stay out of it! For now.
Nobby


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Magnum PI
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Born in the USA Reply with quote

quote:
Originally posted by Van:
All persons born in the United States or naturalized have the right to life, liberty and property. But is born the past tense of “birth” or the past tense of “bear”? And does birth mean the beginning of existence or passage out of the uterus? Born means “brought into life or being.” But the Justices found that the Constitution did not protect the in uterus baby, finding that the little tyke is not a person. The Justices apparently chose to find that born is not the past tense of bear, what a mother does during pregnancy to support the baby’s needs. Nor did they find that Born is the past tense of Birth, meaning brought to life at conception. No. The Court found that born means birth and birth means passage out of the uterus, and thus they apparently denied personhood to a crying baby because her head is still touching the birth canal. But what did the founders intend? They were trying to be inclusive and they clearly did not intend to exclude and leave unprotected the smallest humans.


It's called "The Quickening," and the Justices referred to it in their decision(s).

MPI


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Phinehas
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Born in the USA Reply with quote

Magnum PI wrote:
It's called "The Quickening," and the Justices referred to it in their decision(s).


Well hell's bells! It sure is good to see that they've got a name for this idea. Too bad giving it a name isn't the same as it being true any more than the idea being discussed by supreme court justices makes it credible. Sad

Hey, I have a novel idea! Let's vote to determine Truth! Rolling Eyes

Phin
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