The Deity of Jesus Christ is the Holy Ghost

PentecostalFire · Ferret Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 101 Location: Louisiana

1. The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets of old (I Peter 1:10-11), yet we know the Holy Ghost moved on them (II Peter 1:21).

2. Jesus will raise the believer from death (John 6:40), yet the Spirit will quicken (give life to) the dead (Romans 8:11).

3. The Spirit raised Christ from the dead (Romans 8:9-11), yet Jesus said He would raise Himself from the dead (John 2:19-21).

4. John 14:16 says the Father would send another Comforter, namely the Holy Ghost, yet in John 14:18 Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." In other words, the other Comforter is Jesus in another form - in the Spirit rather than the flesh. Jesus explained this in verse 17, saying that the Comforter was with the disciples already, but He would soon be in them. In other words, the Holy Ghost was with them in the person of Jesus Christ, but the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Jesus Christ, soon would be in them. Jesus further explained this point in John 16:7, saying that He had to go away or else the Comforter would not come. Why? As long as Jesus was present with them in the flesh He would not he present spiritually in their hearts, but after He physically departed He would send back His own Spirit to he with them.

5. The Holy Ghost abides in the hearts of Christians (John 14:16), yet Jesus promised that He would abide with His followers to the end of the world (Matthew 28:20). Similarly, believers are filled with the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:4, 38), yet it is Christ who dwells in us (Colossians 1:27).

6. Ephesians 3:16-17 says that by having the Spirit in the inner man we have Christ in our hearts.

7. Christ sanctifies the Church (Ephesians 5:26), yet the Spirit does (I Peter 1:2).

8. The Holy Ghost is the promised parakletos in John 14:26 (Greek word translated "Comforter" by the KJV), yet Jesus is our parakletos in I John 2:1 (same Greek word translated "advocate" in the KJV). Note that the same human writer - the Apostle John - penned both of these verses, so presumably he was aware of the parallel.

9. The Spirit is our intercessor (Romans 8:26), yet Jesus is our intercessor (Hebrews 7:25).

10. The Holy Ghost will give us words to say in times of persecution (Mark 13:11), yet Jesus said He would do so (Luke 21:15).

11. In Acts 16:6-7, the RSV and NIV both equate the Holy Spirit with the Spirit of Jesus.

doctrellor · Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject:

Okay .. the subject of this thread kinda threw me for a loop. Okay .. the scriptures that you show present a view that JC = HS

But your saying the the Messiahs God IS the Power of YHWH (aka the HS)

so, uh ... sorry to sound confused here .. but .. uh ... Can you explain it a bit more what your trying to say here ...

I know a lot of people try to say that JC = YHWH, but this is probably the first time I've seen somebody say that JC = HS

my first question would be .. "What about YHWH?"
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PentecostalFire · Ferret Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 101 Location: Louisiana

Mattathias · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:

Paul, quoting Isaiah 40:13 from the Septuagint, writes in I Corinthians 2:16,