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ShardikSon Fierce Wolf

Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Aux Arcs
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: |
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I have always loved tulips, and have planted many.
Now, I will never be able to look at them the same, again. _________________ -----------
"Logic is a defined process for going wrong with confidence and certainty" - CF Kettering
“In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. “- Mohandas Gandhi
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I delight greatly in the LORD;
my soul rejoices in my God...
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beloved57 Cobra
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 456
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| ShardikSon wrote: | I have always loved tulips, and have planted many.
Now, I will never be able to look at them the same, again. |
Scoffing at what Jesus taught is probably all you can do..proves you are not one of his.. |
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ShardikSon Fierce Wolf

Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Aux Arcs
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| beloved57 wrote: | | ShardikSon wrote: | I have always loved tulips, and have planted many.
Now, I will never be able to look at them the same, again. |
Scoffing at what Jesus taught is probably all you can do..proves you are not one of his.. |
Sorry you feel that way, Brother.
It is not what Jesus taught that I jest about.
You need to get a grip, Son.
I categorically reject the idea that this TULIP notion has much, if anything, to do with the teachings of The Christ.
I have no more to say about this.
God bless you , Brother. _________________ -----------
"Logic is a defined process for going wrong with confidence and certainty" - CF Kettering
“In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. “- Mohandas Gandhi
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I delight greatly in the LORD;
my soul rejoices in my God...
- Isaiah 61:10 (NIV) |
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Mattathias King of the Jungle

Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 1991 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| ShardikSon wrote: | | I have always loved tulips, and have planted many. |
They are beautiful flowers. I haven't had much luck growing them in the Georgia clay.
| Quote: | | Now, I will never be able to look at them the same, again. |
They haven't changed. Enjoy them in all their magnificent splendor.  _________________ "All wish to possess knowledge, but few, comparatively speaking, are willing to pay the price." - Juvenal |
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beloved57 Cobra
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 456
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Sorry you feel that way, Brother.
It is not what Jesus taught that I jest about.
You need to get a grip, Son. |
I am fine..you the one in trouble..making jest of obvious scripture truth..regardless what men started calling it..thats besides the point..I showed you Jesus spoke those words..there is no excuse..
I | Quote: | | categorically reject the idea that this TULIP notion has much, if anything, to do with the teachings of The Christ. |
Then you reject his words, for thats who taught those principles, I just showed you in the OP
| Quote: | | I have no more to say about this. |
You have revealed your adversity to the Truth..
| Quote: | | God bless you , Brother. |
I am not your brother in christ, not when you reject christ words.. |
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james Tiger

Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 855 Location: Portland, Ore
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| beloved57 wrote: | | james wrote: | beloved57,
I am confused, you seemed to ask the question "Did Jesus teach tulip?" to start this thread for discussion.
Now you seem to be standing on the statement that "Jesus taught tulip!!!" and are not wanting to discuss whether or not he did but are firm on the belief that he did. |
He did teach tulip, its a fact..not even debateable.. |
And that is why my question is - Why did you start a thread asking if Jesus taught tulip, when you are stating He did and it is undebateable? |
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ShardikSon Fierce Wolf

Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Aux Arcs
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| james wrote: | | beloved57 wrote: | | james wrote: | beloved57,
I am confused, you seemed to ask the question "Did Jesus teach tulip?" to start this thread for discussion.
Now you seem to be standing on the statement that "Jesus taught tulip!!!" and are not wanting to discuss whether or not he did but are firm on the belief that he did. |
He did teach tulip, its a fact..not even debateable.. |
And that is why my question is - Why did you start a thread asking if Jesus taught tulip, when you are stating He did and it is undebateable? |
Give it up, Brother. You might as well be arguing with a real tulip. _________________ -----------
"Logic is a defined process for going wrong with confidence and certainty" - CF Kettering
“In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. “- Mohandas Gandhi
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I delight greatly in the LORD;
my soul rejoices in my God...
- Isaiah 61:10 (NIV) |
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JonMarie Bear

Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 699 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Love is not rude!
Even though I do not agree with beloved, and I am a former calvinist, you may find that the basis for which beloved believes in the doctrine of tulip, is in agreement with your beliefs. _________________ Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. |
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JonMarie Bear

Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 699 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Beloved, just what is your basis for believing in the doctrine of tulip and can you substantiate your basis with scripture? _________________ Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. |
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ShardikSon Fierce Wolf

Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Aux Arcs
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| JonMarie wrote: | Love is not rude!
Even though I do not agree with beloved, and I am a former calvinist, you may find that the basis for which beloved believes in the doctrine of tulip, is in agreement with your beliefs. |
You are right.
This is not even a discussion about the concept, though.
The fellow disabuses anyone who would dare to argue the concept, by accusing them of rejecting The Christ.
Sorry, I am willing to discuss and debate, and perhaps learn from anyone wishing to openly so discuss. That does not appear to be the agenda this one has.
Nevertheless, my last post was not particularly called for.
I apologize. _________________ -----------
"Logic is a defined process for going wrong with confidence and certainty" - CF Kettering
“In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. “- Mohandas Gandhi
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I delight greatly in the LORD;
my soul rejoices in my God...
- Isaiah 61:10 (NIV) |
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ShardikSon Fierce Wolf

Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Aux Arcs
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| JonMarie wrote: | | Beloved, just what is your basis for believing in the doctrine of tulip and can you substantiate your basis with scripture? |
Umm, I believe he opened the thread with his substantiating scripture. _________________ -----------
"Logic is a defined process for going wrong with confidence and certainty" - CF Kettering
“In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. “- Mohandas Gandhi
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my soul rejoices in my God...
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JonMarie Bear

Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 699 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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ShardikSon: | Quote: | | Umm, I believe he opened the thread with his substantiating scripture. |
Sorry, my mistake. _________________ Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. |
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beloved57 Cobra
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 456
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| james wrote: | | beloved57 wrote: | | james wrote: | beloved57,
I am confused, you seemed to ask the question "Did Jesus teach tulip?" to start this thread for discussion.
Now you seem to be standing on the statement that "Jesus taught tulip!!!" and are not wanting to discuss whether or not he did but are firm on the belief that he did. |
He did teach tulip, its a fact..not even debateable.. |
And that is why my question is - Why did you start a thread asking if Jesus taught tulip, when you are stating He did and it is undebateable? |
For a witness to the truth and for reasonable discussion,,but those who deny it, then you dey the truth. |
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Ryck Lion King

Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Posts: 1094
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| beloved57 wrote: | | james wrote: | beloved57,
I am confused, you seemed to ask the question "Did Jesus teach tulip?" to start this thread for discussion.
Now you seem to be standing on the statement that "Jesus taught tulip!!!" and are not wanting to discuss whether or not he did but are firm on the belief that he did. |
He did teach tulip, its a fact..not even debateable.. |
I think James made his point.
I think a Moderator can simply lock this thread - it was not open for discussion in the first place. This thread, and the curious diversion it caused, was a waste of everyone's time.  |
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beloved57 Cobra
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 456
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| Ryck wrote: | | beloved57 wrote: | | james wrote: | beloved57,
I am confused, you seemed to ask the question "Did Jesus teach tulip?" to start this thread for discussion.
Now you seem to be standing on the statement that "Jesus taught tulip!!!" and are not wanting to discuss whether or not he did but are firm on the belief that he did. |
He did teach tulip, its a fact..not even debateable.. |
I think James made his point.
I think a Moderator can simply lock this thread - it was not open for discussion in the first place. This thread, and the curious diversion it caused, was a waste of everyone's time.  |
Sure it was open for discussion, but not rejection..if we cant come to the conclusion first of all, that its Jesus words..then we statr the discussion on the wrong foot..if there are some who agree with Jesus words..lets discuss it.. |
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