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golfjack
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: Spiritual Battle |
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I believe we are in one of the biggest Spiritual battles ever. I might step on some toes here, but wish to explain the upcoming election is a vote for good vs. evil. I believe Christians should vote the Bible. Here are some facts: Barack endorses abortion, a gay agenda, welfare state, socialism, and shades of Marxism. Is he able to lead or does he have good judgment? What he is for is not of God to be sure. I believe this country was founded as a Republic with Godly principles. Some say was founded as a democracy. Oh really. All forms of democracies ( what people want) will fail every time. What if the people wanted murder to be legal? Well, it would fail. Do you see what I am driving at? Think about it. Abortion on demand, gay marriage, making pot legal. Are those Godly things? I think not.
I am voting the Bible. Are you? Yes, McCain has problems, but he is pro-life, and against gay marriage. I will vote for John because he is the nearest to God's Word.
Thanks for listening to me get some things off my chest. May God bless America.
Peace, Golfjack |
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prayergirl
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: I agree!! |
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Hello golfjack,
You're thoughts are mine as well. What you said in your post was almost the exact words that I had written to a friend of mine.
YES, as Christians we are to vote the Bible!! YES, McCain is not a perfect canidate, BUT he does fit most of what we Christians are suppose to believe in.
How can you claim to be a Christian, but not care if unborn children are murdered in their mother's wombs. How can you claim to love God, but then reward those who will not work. We support deadbeats with our tax dollars when the Bible clearly says that those who will not work, shall not eat!!!!! Yes, we are to take care of those who can't work, but the majority of those who are on welfare refuse to work for minimum wage!!!
Golfjack, never fear writing the truth. If you happen to upset someone, oh well, the truth hurts!!!! Today, the body of Christ is not one. Everyone has his or her own beliefs, no matter what the Bible clearly states. There are more Christian who do not read the Bible on a daily basis and are ignorant to what God really says. Instead they rely on their Pastors or others to tell them. We are to read the Bible and find the answers for ourselves so that we will not be deceived!!!
Yes, I will be voting for McCain as well. However, I do not have much faith in Christians because they will vote for who promises them the most. If ALL people who claim to love God voted as they should, McCain will be the new Commander in Chief, just on the two issues I've written about, abortion and welfare!!! There is so much more to say about the other issues you brought up that it would take me lots more space than I really should use.
I will close by saying one more thing. The Almighty God is getting ready to shake the United States. The results of this election will determine whether it will be a shaking of a HUGE revival or a mighty shaking of judgment! How much longer will God allow us to mock Him? We are in the last days and God's hand can stay and protect us, or He will remove His hand and destruction will come!!!!
Our votes will be the MOST IMPORTANT vote of any election in the past. I pray that we all will unite and vote with Jesus!!!
GOD BLESS!! |
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golfjack
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: reply |
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Prayergirl, Thank you so much for your comments and being on the side of God. I didn't even mention the fact that the liberals will not defend this country like John will. Yes, America will face judgment pretty soon if the people do not repent for their sins. Have a good and glorious day. Jesus is coming soon for His Church.
Peace, Golfjack |
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prayergirl
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Golfjack, you are quite welcome. I am also glad that there are people in this world, like you, who believe as I do. It seems, at times, that I am alone in my convictions.
You have made very solid points in your posts and you should be proud of your stance. We must remember that the world will hate us, but they hated Jesus first!! What good company we are in!!! 
Pray for our nation!!!
God Bless!!! |
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eleven
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry guys, but I have to laugh at these posts, but it's not your fault.
Eight years ago, a very "Christian" candidtate got up on stage and vowed to the world that if he were elected, he would put an end to abortion.
He took the "Christian" world by storm. Just about every TV evangelist was backing him. Christian America rallied behind this prince, and stated we are "One Nation Under God." We are a Christian nation, blessed by God.
Whooo hoo!!!
That candidate was George W. Bush. King George has now ruled for 7 1/2 years, and ya know what? Not one single solitary thing has been done about abortion in this country. So much for his "Christian" promises.
But heck, it worked once before, why not now?
Let's get real. The world will never be right until Jesus rules again.
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prayergirl
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Eleven,
I just wanted to let my feelings be known when I answered Golfjacks post and did not want to start a discussion about abortion, which was the only point that you picked up on in everything that was said by me or Golfjack.
You are wrong about President Bush not doing anything regarding abortion. He did sign a bill making partial birth abortion illegal.
Think what you want about our President, he did the best he could during these almost 8 years. Being President is hard, especially with a senate and congress that is against everything you want to do. I would be happy to have George Bush for another 4 years, if it was allowed! No, he is not perfect, but he has done a good job!
Abortion is only one topic of many that I base my vote on, as stated in my last post. I have never believed that any man could be the perfect President and I also understand that this world will not be right until Jesus rules it, but I have to do what I feel is right and vote for someone who possess the same beliefs as I do.
You can laugh all you want at me for the way I feel, but I will never apologize to anyone for standing for what I believe in.
You might want to keep this in mind. When you posts responses, you should do it with kindness and not sound as though you are an authority. We are all people and want to be treated with respect. We may not believe the same way, but we should be respected. God is the ultimate authority and judge. I am so glad of that!!
If you want to discuss abortion, please go to that specific site.
God Bless!! |
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ChristianWoman1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I stand with you golfjack  ...and nice to meet you prayergirl, welcome! This election is indeed one of good vs. evil....God have mercy on the USA 
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golfjack
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: reply |
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Amen to everything you said Prayergirl and Christianwoman.
Pres. Bush nominated 2 conservative judges to the supreme court, and one more hopefully will bring an end to Roe. vs. Wade. If we investigate what David said in Psalms about life, we will see how God feels about abortion ( can't remember chapter and verse).
We must remember we are God's servants and an extension of His arms. We must take on the authority that Jesus gave us and bring down the enemy in Spiritual battle in the Name of Jesus.
Come on brothers and sisters in Christ, we have much work to do and we must vote the Bible Way. PRAISE GOD!. Give Him a shout and jump for Joy in the Lord. JESUS IS LORD! Can I have some Amens?
Peace, Golfjack |
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rufus
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Spiritual Battle |
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| golfjack wrote: | | Yes, McCain has problems, but he is pro-life, and against gay marriage. |
What a joke! McCain voted against the "Federal Marriage (one man one woman) Amendment" in the Senate.
| golfjack wrote: |
I believe this country was founded as a Republic with Godly principles.....
...Think about it. Abortion on demand, gay marriage, making pot legal.... |
making pot legal !!!! Oh, I didn't know the Democrats had that in their party platform! Democrats have been just as brainwashed in the drug war cult as the Republicans have.
Check your history. Laudenum (opium tonic) could be purchased over the counter without a prescription in the U.S.A until 1914 - five years before the 18th Amendment was ratified. Marijuana was not illegal in Wisconsin or North Carolina until 1936 - three years after federal alcohol prohibition ended.
Are you in favor of repealing the 21st Amendment, golfjack? If yes, I'll at least give you credit for being consistent with your views. If no, then I'll have to make the charge of hypocrisy which is "not a Godly principle". |
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eleven
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| prayergirl wrote: |
You might want to keep this in mind. When you posts responses, you should do it with kindness and not sound as though you are an authority. We are all people and want to be treated with respect. We may not believe the same way, but we should be respected. God is the ultimate authority and judge. I am so glad of that!!
If you want to discuss abortion, please go to that specific site.
God Bless!! |
Whoa, I think I have just been rebuked!!! 
Dearest Prayergirl, I most sincerely apologize if you find my posts offensive. But I'll let you know now that I find your response a little.......over emotional.
Geez, if something like what I wrote is going to rock your world, I'd hate to see how you react to issues in the outside world. sheesh!
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eleven
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Spiritual Battle |
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| rufus wrote: | | golfjack wrote: | | Yes, McCain has problems, but he is pro-life, and against gay marriage. |
What a joke! McCain voted against the "Federal Marriage (one man one woman) Amendment" in the Senate.
| golfjack wrote: |
I believe this country was founded as a Republic with Godly principles.....
...Think about it. Abortion on demand, gay marriage, making pot legal.... |
making pot legal !!!! Oh, I didn't know the Democrats had that in their party platform! Democrats have been just as brainwashed in the drug war cult as the Republicans have.
Check your history. Laudenum (opium tonic) could be purchased over the counter without a prescription in the U.S.A until 1914 - five years before the 18th Amendment was ratified. Marijuana was not illegal in Wisconsin or North Carolina until 1936 - three years after federal alcohol prohibition ended.
Are you in favor of repealing the 21st Amendment, golfjack? If yes, I'll at least give you credit for being consistent with your views. If no, then I'll have to make the charge of hypocrisy which is "not a Godly principle". |
Amen, and Amen!
The American voters are blind.
Get into the issues, and stop believing everything that is placed before you. What is done in darkness reveals the heart of a man, not what is displayed on CNN
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Siam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| prayergirl wrote: | Hello Eleven,
You are wrong about President Bush not doing anything regarding abortion. He did sign a bill making partial birth abortion illegal.
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I'm only here (on a Christian topic.) because I trust Eleven and like reading his post.
How can you rally around an abortion bill when every day your president (I'm sure your next one will be just as stupid) gives orders to invade, destroy and murder. (That’s murder in the absolute-no debate about if they can feel pain or not) as your beautiful country is driven further into debt, your schooling, hospital and welfare system gets worse and worse.
It’s all cool for you lot (Christians)... God’s gunna wipe out all the scum and create a new heaven… (That’s real love your neighbor stuff there; you’re cursed in your own belief as soon as you desire this!)
The Christian rights inability to see that Abortion is actually a necessary evil in this world because governments have made it an impossibility for the unwanted to be looked after and loved, as is the birth right of all individuals.
Does any woman truly want to abort there baby if there govenment gave them the right support?
The governments and the religions of this world have ruled wo/mans heads and hearts (the most deceitful of all our emotions) to control, dumb down and generally distort our reality so that everything that we believe has an oppo-same that can be used to FIGHT and UNDERMINE our true reality…
That we are all GOD/CHRIST potential.
The fight for justice, truth (and the American way) starts with individuals who refuse to:
1-Judge-for that is the Lords job.
2-Critisize-for what you see wrong in an individual is what you can not recognize within ones self.
3-Hate-for if you hate, you are not on the side of peace or of God.
Its funny how religions espouse an absolute belief in a truth they say is God’s, (which it isn’t) but think “What a loser.” About others who understand that we-all of us-have God potential, but only if we follow the path of Christ.
Matt23-23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
Siam.
P.S.Bush is not perfect, but he has done a good job-at being deceitful!
p.p.s. Legalize it 
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Nobby
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Guys, this is a Christian Fellowship forum, It is not a place for debating & arguing. If you want to do that take is somewhere else. I expect you to treat each other with respect. Do you even read the heading on these forums over on the index page? 
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Siam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Nobby wrote: | | Guys, this is a Christian Fellowship forum, It is not a place for debating & arguing. If you want to do that take is somewhere else. I expect you to treat each other with respect. Do you even read the heading on these forums over on the index page? |
Hi nobby...
I know I'm sorry, couldn't help myself.
I have never even bothered to even look at this forum before but the ideals represtented turned my stomach so much that I couldn't hold my tounge. (fingers)
Anyway, this is really a political discussion, maybe you should move it!
Siam.
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rufus
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Nobby
I respect your intentions to keep things in there proper categories. A "political debate" dosen't belong in the "Prayer Request Forum". Nor in the "Christian Fellowship forum" I presume.
That said, don't you think that golfjack's opening post and the tone of it belongs in the "Political Forum"? Hence, the subsequent replies! The opening post is most certainly a highly controversial political statement. Indeed, an endorsement for the upcoming U.S. Presidential election. So I agree with Siam. Maybe you should move it!
Regards
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