woman's role

christina · Cobra Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 455

Women role as what? A human being?

To say women should not teach the word of God is ignorance.
To say that women should keep quiet is ignorance.

If it were not for the women we may not know about Jesus return.
Who was the first one Jesus appeared to? Mary of Magdnaline
Why because she believed him and had more faith.

Who was the first not to believe that Jesus had returned? The Men.

smurph · Not So Newbie Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

I posted this passage from I Corinthians 14 on another thread earlier tonight, but I came across this thread and I can't believe that no one else has mentioned it here, as it seems directly, explicitly on point. Of course, I'm sure there is some "it's not literal", "it's taken out of context" explaination for the passages:

34The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as (BH)the Law also says.

35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

Please enlighten me on the modern day, this doesn't suit "my" needs explaination for the above scriptures.

Thanks,
S

unschoolmom · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:13 am Post subject:

Paul had issues with women?

LindaBee2 · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: Reply

I'll have to do some more in-depth research on this. But it was probably a cultural thing.

LindaBee2 · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: Reply

FFT · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:

3.) She can discuss it with her husband, rather than dropping her own opinions or refusing to see any but her own. A conclusion can be reached which both parties are content with.

lone-traveler · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:

It's really hard to define this in today's society. We have men and women raising children alone, and both have to become what's lacking.

whatever I say can be taken out of context but I hope you all will understand where I'm coming from Smile

In my opinion as a two parent home. That one parent was to be the protector of the family, and the other parent is the one who provides nourishment for the family.

Women, in my opinon have a tendency to have a gentler spirit, and able to give advice more so from emotions and the heart. (women are fom venus Wink

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Where men tend to be more direct and authoritative and stubborn LOL..
(men are from mars #Mad

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And children need both to survive and thrive with direct instructions tempered with gentleness and love. So that the children become a little of both parents.

Now in my opinion, these roles can be reversed and the father can be more emotional than the woman's directness.
Or either male or female, as in today's society have to become both direct and gentle. Teaching and instructing in protection and nourishment.

No matter how it falls, children need to learn and be taught both strengths. And today, with the time limitations we have with our children, this makes it very difficult.

I honestly wish there was a way that we could go back and become a nation that invests more training and discipline and time and love with our children. They are tomorrows world. And it's not fair, to send them out there without knowledge of both love and discipline.

Parents are too tired from being both protectors and providers, that the nourishment is becoming less and less. Children, not all, but a lot of them feel like they add to the problems, their in the way, their not wanted or loved. And it's all because we don't have time.

Is there a way we can slow the clocks down a bit...everybody's in a hurry to grow up, I know, but we loose so much learning at a high speed.
And a lot of things get left out, that should be made a forerunner, rather than a back burner...

How do we just sloooooooowww doooooowwwnnn....

Peace
Lone

humble_christian1959 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: the role of women

The word of God is quite specific about the roles of men and women.

the curse that was given in the garden of eden, has not been lifed in any sense.

we men still earn our living by the sweat of our brow, women still give birth in much travail, but that travail can be lightened, as per paul.

since we can still se the curse on adams desendants, why is it then so hard to see that the roles are still set as they were?

but the christian man, rather than being a task master over his wife, is to love her as himself, even as his own body, if this is done and the man is truly seeking the will of God for him and hhis family, then the woman, knowing her loving husband, will have no problem in the submitting herself unto her husband.

true love speaks louder than any words ever could, a man and a woman brought together by God, following His will, in love. charity, and faith, wont have role problems, because they are in the perfect will of God for their own individual lives.

LindaBee2 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: Reply

I found an explanation for 1 Corinthians 14, about why women should be silent in church.

http://www.gotquestions.org/women-silent-church.html

Man-what-a-ride · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject:

Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.Proverbs 31:10-31

You might want to read the rest of the passage as it lists her "duties." If you do you will find that she's taking care of everything at home including "running the business" while her husband sits at the city gates (cultural thing meaning sort of like a judge). This will give you an idea of a woman's place in the "household."

As far as in church (as in all things) a woman's place is where God tells her it is. All of us men and women are given gifts that God wants us to use. For some it is simply the act of listening (if you don't know what I mean... You've never been around one of these blessed people). Others have an amazing gift of hospitality (meaning they could make anyone feel welcome).

Can't find the passage at the moment, but the Bible even talks about a Christian woman's faith saving her unbelieving husband. (Seen this happen with my sister. Shocked

WOW! That's all I can say about that.)

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 506

Man,

While I can see what you're saying, I have to ask -- what about the woman who must work outside of the home b/c their family cannot make a living w/one income? I do understand what you mean though. I myself saw an unbelieving husband saved through his wife. Praise God for that!

Roger459 · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject:

(Tittus 2:3) The mature women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

(Tit 2:4) That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

(Tit 2:5) To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

There is a concerted effort = to get women into the workplace = so that someone else = can raise their children! SO that they Can INDOCTRINATE the Children with Secular Humanism =AND= Political Correctness!

WHAT CAN YOU PAY SOMEONE TO DO FOR PAY = = THAT YOU WILL NOT DO FOR LOVE [i.e Raise your Children]

DISCLAIMER: YES - I know that there are Circumstances = where a woman has been abandoned by her man, or he died, or some other reason = that she Has To Work! I AM NOT SPEAKING TO THAT WOMAN! Remember the Widow = that Elijah fed for 3 years! HAD ne not done so, she and her son would have died!

PROPER BUDGETING = = AND GOD'S HELP = = WILL ENABLE A FAMILY TO LIVE = = ON A SINGLE INCOME!

Thanks, RR

shepreach · Cobra Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 487 Location: ga

couple of things.
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P1234567890 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:43 am Post subject:

Roger459 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:16 am Post subject:

(1Timothy 5:8) But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

WAS Adam toll to Till the Ground, or was EVE?

IS MONEY, the criteria for RIGHTEOUSNESS and Obedience TO the Scritpures?

Thanks, RR