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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Mother Teresa's diary Reply with quote

I just learned this morning that Mother Teresa doubted her faith Shocked Maybe some of you were aware of this, but it's news to me...I"d like to hear your thoughts on this. Here are a few links:

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I think her spiritual battle with satan only proves her faith...she continued her work until death.

what say you??
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What say I?

I'll tell ya what I say, and not many people are going to like it, but I'm so freaking angry right now, I think my rage is actually going to melt my computer!

Mother Theresa's doubt, fears and whatever have nothing at all to do with satan...or wait, maybe they do.
It's called the Roman Catholic Church!!!

I was brought up by two very strict Roman catholic parents. Involved in the church for over 40 years, I was baptized into it, went to catholic school for 12 years, married in this "church", had my kids baptized there, had my dad's funeral there. My mother continues to attend there. So please don't call me an attacker of this rat's nest because I know what I'm talking about!

The Roman Catholic Church (not those who attend) but the "leadership" of this nastiness are the most hypocritical bunch of liars that satan could dig up.

I can completely relate to Mother Theresa's pain- I really can cause I experienced the exact same things she talks about in her letters.......emptiness, no joy, doubt, longing for God....I KNOW THIS PAIN. They are an oppressive bunch of bullies!

Five years ago I got the courage to leave this slavery.
I walked out praying to God to lead me to the truth.
He did, and from the moment I walk out of the dark den of craziness, I have been flying on the wings of eagles!!!

I couldn't be happier now. I have so much joy in my heart is scares me sometimes because I don't know how much I can take. (Pace me Lord, for I am only human).

One Protestant pastor I became friends with once told me, he thanked the catholic church because most of the newbies, seekers, and new members to his church where ex-catholics. What does that tell ya?

Don't confuse the issue here. Mother Theresa was a wonderful woman, and filled with the Holy Spirit. The sad part is she just couldn't recognize it because this rotten religion which will literally suck the life out of you. So God Bless you Mother, because of your persistance - the part of your heart and soul that said, "Keep going daughter, you are on the right track" you have now found what you were looking for all your life - the peace of God, and the eternal life Jesus promised you.
We love you!!!

And before ANY OF YOU even thinks about righting me a hate later, back off! I find it interesting that the focus is on Mother Theresa's lack of faith, while we are missing the obvious. This woman TRUSTED these people with her very soul - her doubts, her fears, her questions and so on. That is extremely intimate and personal. Her DYING WISH was that these letters be detroyed. So what does the catholic leadship do? The ones she called her "friends" that she trusted so much? They turn right around and do the OPPOSITE. THEY MAKE THEM PUBLIC! Not only public, but let books be written about them! How could you be so rotten????

So I had to ask myself, why would they do this?
Mother Thersesa is an icon of faith to the world.
But now, think about the consequences. (Geez if Mother Theresa doubted, why should I believe?)

But that's the Roman Catholic Church for you.
The Vatican and all it's "leadership" are the biggest bunch of liars and hypocrites walking this earth.
They (once again) are going to push THEIR OWN agenda rather than look at the harm that could be done by this, not to mention the disrespect shown to Mother Theresa.
How do you think SHE feels about all this?
I wouldn't be surprised if they get some money from these books as well. But I'll look into it.


So there ya go. That's how I feel.
To the leadership of the Roman Catholics, have at it, your time will come. Your father satan must be SO proud!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that was a mouthful wasn't it? feel better now? Wink

I just wanted to say that I too have the same backround...my parents are extremely catholic. I was raised catholic, baptized catholic as an infant, went to catholic school my entire life K-12th grade.

...and I"ve never known the Lord or have been so joyous and flying on eagles wings as I am today!! Very Happy I found God when I left the Catholic church...met my husband and have been attending his non denominational christian church for 17years now Very Happy

I completely understand your words...completely. I do ,however, think my parents are about as holy as any other people I know....their faith is amzing...so it's not them I have issues with...like you said, it's the "leadership." Confused or disgusted The rules...their way or the highway Rolling Eyes boy...won't catholics be surprised when they see they are NOT the only ones in heaven! Wink

I just posted about this morning bc I never heard about it before [the letters]. And I too can't believe they would go ahead and keep the letters even though it was her dying wish #evil I have a HUGE problem with that. I'd be interested to know if they make any money off them too Confused or disgusted ...let us know if you ever find anything out. I would think so...someone is buying the book Crying or Very sad

anyhooo... I hear you my friend. I appriciated your "vent"... I may not have such anger as you about it, more of sadness for everyone who's lost in the catholic rules Crying or Very sad but still... thanks for your thoughts.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChristianWoman1 wrote:
well that was a mouthful wasn't it? feel better now? Wink


Actually no. If I had the time, power, and money, I would personally go to Rome and burn that viper pit known as the Vatican down to the ground, but thanks for asking.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "dark night of the soul" is experienced by many holy people. God can test a person's faith just like He did to the prophets of old. Untested faith may really just be an illusion. Should the Catholic Church have destroyed them? Did she really say she wanted them destroyed? Then why didn't she destroy them herself? Had the Church destroyed them, and later on had someone who knew her personally revealed her struggle against her adversary the Church would be condemned by those that hate it for concealing the truth. It's kind of "damned if you do and damned if you don't."

eleven and Christianwoman, I also was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, and had firmly rooted Catholic parents. Against all odds, I remained Catholic mainly for the sacraments of the Eucharist and confession. I have no idea why you two might have felt in slavery. I never felt that. I have always believed the Catholic Church through Apostlic authority based on Jesus's "handing the keys" over to men, made the Church a dispenser of His grace and salvation. I was the receiver. Jesus was the giver. I accepted that as Truth. I never looked at Scripture much except what they read at Mass. I only started studying Scripture after a brother of mine turned Baptist and started accusing Catholics of going against it. So far I haven't found where it teaches error. As for finding a church without sinners, good luck. Jesus didn't come for the righteous. He came for the sinners. Why do you hate the Church so much? Where does this resentment come from? I don't understand.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well...eleven will have to explain where his anger comes from if he wants to...I don't harbor the anger or hatered towards catholics that he does, but I will say this: I don't understand why in all my years growing up in the catholic church we were never encouraged to read scripture? why I never even owned a bible until I was an adult and able to get one myself...why there was never [ and is never] any intimacy with God in the catholic church?

I"m VERY greatful for where my relationship is with the Lord today!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cballard wrote:
The "dark night of the soul" is experienced by many holy people. God can test a person's faith just like He did to the prophets of old. Untested faith may really just be an illusion. Should the Catholic Church have destroyed them? Did she really say she wanted them destroyed? Then why didn't she destroy them herself? Had the Church destroyed them, and later on had someone who knew her personally revealed her struggle against her adversary the Church would be condemned by those that hate it for concealing the truth. It's kind of "damned if you do and damned if you don't."

eleven and Christianwoman, I also was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, and had firmly rooted Catholic parents. Against all odds, I remained Catholic mainly for the sacraments of the Eucharist and confession. I have no idea why you two might have felt in slavery. I never felt that. I have always believed the Catholic Church through Apostlic authority based on Jesus's "handing the keys" over to men, made the Church a dispenser of His grace and salvation. I was the receiver. Jesus was the giver. I accepted that as Truth. I never looked at Scripture much except what they read at Mass. I only started studying Scripture after a brother of mine turned Baptist and started accusing Catholics of going against it. So far I haven't found where it teaches error. As for finding a church without sinners, good luck. Jesus didn't come for the righteous. He came for the sinners. Why do you hate the Church so much? Where does this resentment come from? I don't understand.


Ok, ya know what? I would actually LOVE to talk to you about this, but before I do, you have to promise me that you will hear me out. Because what I have to say won't be pretty. If you really want to get to the heart of the matter, I will give it to you, but only if you are serious about this because I won't pull any punches, and I will not be PC (politically correct). I also ask that you be of open mind - meaning that you have to challenge your own beliefs. If you don't want to do this, then let's not even get started, cause it will only be a waste of time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If ya'll are going to do this, start a new thread. Or, if you want to debate it, talk to Nobby. It's really not about the OP. Thanks. God bless.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eleven, go ahead and start a new thread so you can elaborate. I can't promise to respond to anything in a timely manner because I'm so tied down at the moment, but I promise not respond in a hateful manner. I don't expect to argue because I don't expect you to change your mind. I just want to understand why you hate it so much. You could do this privately if you want.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cballard wrote:
eleven, go ahead and start a new thread so you can elaborate. I can't promise to respond to anything in a timely manner because I'm so tied down at the moment, but I promise not respond in a hateful manner. I don't expect to argue because I don't expect you to change your mind. I just want to understand why you hate it so much. You could do this privately if you want.


Let me think on it.
I don't want to take this to the debate forum , because my intention here is not to debate catholocism.
All I want to do is share what I know, and have experienced as a catholic. I would ask other catholics not to immediately dig their heals in to defend their religion, but listen with an open mind.
I am not out to attack anyone's loyalty to any particular church.......if it is feeding you, then stay there.

All I am asking - and this goes for people of all religions- is to open your minds and hearts to another. Because religion, and only religion is what separates us all from one another. If we did away with religion, we could unite very easily because in our hearts and souls, we all want the same thing.

So no, I am not out to attack my catholic brothers and sisters, but yes, I will attack the catholic "religion" because it is one of nastiness.
But today, we defend religions like we defend football teams. Rah rah, we are number one, and if you attack my team, I will attack you back.

We need to wake up and realize that we are all on the SAME team - that religion is evil- and that Jesus never intended for us to have thousands of different churches, just one.

So like I said, if you (and others) are willing to listen with an open mind, I will continue. If not, let's end right here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you take it to a thread called "religion" because I think you will need to define what you mean by religion. Now, where would such a thread fit Question What forum Question It might fit right after this discussion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mind is open 11 ...I would love to hear what you have to share, thank you for your honesty.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi cballard, this forum would work very well. It is open for discussion, but it's really not for heavy debate. We've had some debates that should have been moved to the debate section. So this would be fine. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cballard wrote:
The "dark night of the soul" is experienced by many holy people. God can test a person's faith just like He did to the prophets of old. Untested faith may really just be an illusion. Should the Catholic Church have destroyed them? Did she really say she wanted them destroyed? Then why didn't she destroy them herself?


How do you destroy letters you sent to someone else?

cballard wrote:

Had the Church destroyed them, and later on had someone who knew her personally revealed her struggle against her adversary the Church would be condemned by those that hate it for concealing the truth. It's kind of "damned if you do and damned if you don't."


This woman made a dying request. That we know for sure. The church even says this was her request. But we're supposed to ignore that because of "what if's?"
C'mon now.

cballard wrote:

eleven and Christianwoman, I also was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, and had firmly rooted Catholic parents. Against all odds, I remained Catholic mainly for the sacraments of the Eucharist and confession. I have no idea why you two might have felt in slavery. I never felt that. I have always believed the Catholic Church through Apostlic authority based on Jesus's "handing the keys" over to men, made the Church a dispenser of His grace and salvation. I was the receiver. Jesus was the giver. I accepted that as Truth. I never looked at Scripture much except what they read at Mass. I only started studying Scripture after a brother of mine turned Baptist and started accusing Catholics of going against it. So far I haven't found where it teaches error. As for finding a church without sinners, good luck. Jesus didn't come for the righteous. He came for the sinners. Why do you hate the Church so much? Where does this resentment come from? I don't understand.


Ok, let's do it.
Let's take this to the debate forum.
But understand something.
I am not talking about those who attend catholic churches. I am not here to bash or attack people's beliefs. Like I said, if it is feeding you, then stay there.

The point of all this is to reveal an underlying message / philosophy that the LEADERSHIP uses and passes on to it's people without them even realizing that I find repugnant.

So with that- I'll see you there.
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