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eleven
King of the Jungle
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Posts: 1459
Location: Texas
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 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Pete wrote: | | eleven wrote: |
There is nothing "holy" about being a victim - although some sick theological leaders will try to claim otherwise.
We are Christians! We are Blessed! To be "blessed" is to be envied by the world. They are supposed to want what we have. We are the LIGHT, we are the BEACON to the truth. Nobody, not even me will follow a theology that says the world is permitted to slap us around and disguise that as "holiness". It's nothing but garbage. That's not the SOLID ROCK I know as my Jesus. |
I think history has shown that true Christians have been "slapped around" plenty, not so much by the carnal world, but by the politically organized, official "Christian Church" that supposedly represents the God of the Bible, but in fact, is a counterfeit church.
For instance, how would you like to be burned at the stake by them - very slowwwwly? That is, after hanging from a dungeon wall in chains, or stretched on a rack 'til your joints snapped and you "confessed"?
True Christians have been pursecuted plenty in the past, and it will happen again. Take it to the bank! |
Yes, I can take it to the bank because Jesus warned us first that we would suffer for His name. Here's where the perversion of religion comes in.....
Somehow, and for the life of me I don't know how, some churches welcome this. They believe that you go thru suffering , God somehow condones this, and even sees it as holy. What kind of crappola is this????
My Father is a wonderful Father. He wants nothing but the best for me. And yes, there is no doubt that trouble will come my way because this is satan's playground, but anyone who thinks that God delights in the suffering of His children need a psych evaluation.
God said, I know I have the plans I have for you - to prosper you and not to harm you.
So to all you sickos that think "suffering" is a holy thing - say hi to your father satan. Because my Father loves spoiling me rotten with all the good things of life.
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ShardikSon
Fierce Wolf
Joined: 10 Jul 2008
Posts: 580
Location: Aux Arcs
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| JB wrote: | Plontius,
So what you are suggesting is that most of those Americans that call themselves liberals aren't really liberals? I will buy that.
JB |
Actually, it is more like:
Most people called liberals by the folks who refer to themselves as conservatives, probably aren't.
And a history lesson:
Originally, the terms, conservative and liberal, were used politically, to define how one interpreted the laws.
Conservatives held to a fairly literal interpretation, while liberals believed in a loose interpretation with a lot of room for local context.
This goes back to the early Rabbinical counsels.
In the middle 20th century, they seemed to have morphed into a more fiscal definition.
But in the latter part of the century, they morphed again.
An interesting essay on the subject
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Plotinus
Big Lion
Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 972
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | | So to all you sickos that think "suffering" is a holy thing - say hi to your father satan. Because my Father loves spoiling me rotten with all the good things of life. |
Your point that suffering is not holy is a valid one, eleven. However, I would say that holiness is sometimes demonstrated by those who suffer. It is not the suffering which is holy, but the response to that suffering.
I am not sure I believe that one can be a son of satan. Perhaps it depends on how you understand the nature of the satanic. I believe it is not in the nature of any human being to be purely evil. Nor is it in the nature of any human being to be purely good. So if any of us is a child of God, then all of us are children of God. If any of us is a child of satan, then we all are.
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Calvin
Newbie Alert
Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Posts: 1
Location: Granbury, Texas
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey everybody, there is absolutely no reason why a Christian should not own a gun. Some people think that it contradicts our worldview, but there is nowhere in the Word of God that would point to that conclusion. |
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