John 6:21

JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

Evee:

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 676

JonMarie,

How about Nicodemus when Jesus said to him that he must be born again. Nicodemus even had to clarify, "How can we be born twice?" (paraphrased) If he would have taken Jesus at His literal words instead of digging deeper & asking Jesus to clarify, he would have come away confused & with a whole different meaning than what Jesus intended.
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JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

Jesus asked Nicodemas, how is it you are a teacher of the law and know not these things?(paraphrased)

Good example though.
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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 676

In addition, the scorpio is just to show what month I was born. That's all. Please don't read anything into that that's not there.
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JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

In addition, the scorpio is just to show what month I was born. That's all. Please don't read anything into that that's not there.

Thank you for clearing that up Evee. Very Happy

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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

ChristianWoman1 · Labrador Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 300

JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

John 6:21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went.

Am I the only one who takes this to mean that when Jesus came aboard that the ship was instantly transported to the land?
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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Yehushuan · Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:

JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

Yehu, do you think that the possibility of the ship arriving immediately at the land did not exist?

Or what would be the point of saying they went directly there, as if to imply they were on a leisure cruise or a fishing expedition? What actually was the purpose of their trip?

6:21 Then they readily took him into the boat: and straight away the boat was at the land to which they were going. BBE
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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 676

The point could be that they went directly there, meaning that they didn't stop to diddle daddle.
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JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

Evee, the Greek states "immediately became on the land" That is how it reads, why is it so difficult for everyone to accept?
Jesus did many miracles, why deny this one?

Matt 8:27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Why does Yehu think that a person has to be a Greek scholar to understand the bible? As if God makes his Word exclusionary except to a handfew of Greek/Hebrew scholars? The bible no way implies that. Actually it states the opposite.
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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

JB · Lion King Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 1075

JonMarie,

Mark 1:21 reads: KAI EUQUS TOIS SABBASIN EISELQWN EIS THN SUNAGWGHN EDIDASKEN.

(EUQUS) Here we see the word immediately used (They *went into Capernaum; and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the synagogue and {began} to teach)

This text doesn't suggest a teletransportation but maybe a sense of importance or urgency and so He went right in with out delay.

Just a thought

JB

JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

Yehu:

JonMarie · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 737 Location: Pa.

JB, the text indicates that upon entering the temple Jesus began teaching immediately. no teleporting is suggested.
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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

JB · Lion King Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 1075

JonMarie,

I was just trying to point out that immediately doesn't necessarily mean instantly. Sorry If I was out of line

JB