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eleven
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: King of the Road Reply with quote

Hey, I'm just curious.........

Tell me what you think Jesus' lifestyle was like while He walked the earth.

Was He rich, poor?
Was He loud, quiet?
Was He a wanderer, homebody.........and so on.

If you had to describe Jesus to someone today, what would you say? I'm not talking about His teachings and ministry right now, but His lifestyle.

What say you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would this matter? It would be nothing more than mere speculation. That is, even more so than the various interpretations of the bible on here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt 11 :29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Luke 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Also I think it is important to note that in Luke 2, Jesus, at the age of twelve, was filled with wisdom and the grace of God was upon Him. He was teaching and preaching in the temple and was eager to be about His Fathers business. Yet the Son of Man, went with Mary and Joseph and was submissive to their authority and at the age of thirty, began His ministry, at which time, curiously enough, Mary has become a widow. Also, note that Jesus was still submitting to Mary's authority as shown in the wedding at Cana.

PS Jesus was not quiet when He drove the money changers out of the temple.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Airyaman wrote:
Why would this matter? It would be nothing more than mere speculation. That is, even more so than the various interpretations of the bible on here.


Well what started this thread was a discussion I am having thru emails with a another church member.

It started out innocently enough, but as our discussion about Jesus continued, it became clear that we both have very different views about how Jesus lived His life and how that impacts scripture.

For example, many people out there believe Jesus was a homeless wanderer who relied on the goodness of other people.

And others will go the complete opposite direction and say that Jesus was wealthy.

How you view the way Jesus lived in the world greatly impacts the interpretation of the lessons He taught.
So tell me y'all. How do YOU picture the man, Jesus?

Again, I'm not talking about what He taught just yet. I want to know how you think He lived as a human being on this earth.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie wrote:

Luke 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.


Ok, this is a great example of what I'm talking about.
So are you citing this scripture to indicate that Jesus was a homeless man?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a facintating explanation of Jesus' life on earth in the Urantia Book... Rolling Eyes
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eleven
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RevJP wrote:
I found a facintating explanation of Jesus' life on earth in the Urantia Book... Rolling Eyes


Is that located before or after Ephesians??? Confused or disgusted
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eleven:So are you citing this scripture to indicate that Jesus was a homeless man?

No, His home was, is, always will be in heaven.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While on Earth He had no home, of course He had His heavenly home, but you cant see that with our earthly eyes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonMarie wrote:
eleven:So are you citing this scripture to indicate that Jesus was a homeless man?

No, His home was, is, always will be in heaven.


45degreesN wrote:

While on Earth He had no home, of course He had His heavenly home, but you cant see that with our earthly eyes.



Ok, so what you both are telling me is, Jesus had no home to go to at the end of the day.
Where then, did He sleep?
He was also in need of food, water, and clothing, a place to wash.
Where did these things come from?

Seems to me we are ignoring the basic human needs of
Jesus. Didn't He have any?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus and the twelve frequently stayed at friends houses and slept by the side of the road for lack of any thing else. They did spend much time in Bethany where Mary and Martha lived and stayed there. Judas carried a "bag" I guess that was for contributions and there might have been times when they could afford to stay in Inns around the country.

Remember when Jesus fed the 5,000 with just a few loaves and fishes, well as long as those fishermen could fish they probably ate fish a lot.

We know that Jesus' uncle (Joseph of Arimethea) was wealthy but there is little mention of him during the time of Jesus' ministry. For the most part Joseph (the Uncle) spent most of his time outside the country for his work as a "Noblis Decorum" he traded in the Tin trade and traveled extensively throughout the Mediterranean and as far a England.

They did spend much time in Bethany where Mary and Martha lived and stayed there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

45degreeN wrote:
Jesus and the twelve frequently stayed at friends houses and slept by the side of the road for lack of any thing else. They did spend much time in Bethany where Mary and Martha lived and stayed there. Judas carried a "bag" I guess that was for contributions and there might have been times when they could afford to stay in Inns around the country.

Remember when Jesus fed the 5,000 with just a few loaves and fishes, well as long as those fishermen could fish they probably ate fish a lot.

We know that Jesus' uncle (Joseph of Arimethea) was wealthy but there is little mention of him during the time of Jesus' ministry. For the most part Joseph (the Uncle) spent most of his time outside the country for his work as a "Noblis Decorum" he traded in the Tin trade and traveled extensively throughout the Mediterranean and as far a England.

They did spend much time in Bethany where Mary and Martha lived and stayed there.


Wow! Great stuff 45, I really, REALLY appreciate this.
Very eye opening. But I want to push you a little further just for the sake of edification on both our parts.

You said Jesus slept by the side of the road.
How do you know this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, what makes you think Joseph of Arimathea was Jesus' uncle?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting the impression here (because of the lack of participation primarily) that talking about what Jesus owned or didn't own is a taboo subject.

Is it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus lived with His earthly parents until He was 30. When it was tax time, He instructed His disciple to use the coin from the mouth of the fish, to pay. When He wanted a donkey to ride into town, He instructed His disciples to say, "the Master has need of it". After Jesus fasted for 40 days and was at the brink of starvation, satan tempted Him saying command these stones be made bread. Jesus replied that man does not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Afterwards, angels came and ministered to Him. He was born in an animal stable because that is all that was available at the time, but of course God could have caused His Beloved Son to be born in a palace if He so desired. Jesus said that He did nothing of Himself but was in total submision to God, His Father, at all times. His only known earthly possession was a garment His earthly mother made for Him.
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