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Mattathias
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| eleven wrote: | | What's really compelling is watching people who can't quite figure out how it would be possible for there to be 3 deities, but only ONE God. |
Three deities is polytheism. None of my Trinitarian friends would say that they believe in more than one deity.
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Mattathias
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | Don't you get it?
WE are God!!! |
I was raised in the Southern Baptist Church. I never heard any Southern Baptist pastor (then or since) teach that we are God. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't think the doctrine of the Trinity teaches the idea that we are God.
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eleven
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Mattathias wrote: | | eleven wrote: | | What's really compelling is watching people who can't quite figure out how it would be possible for there to be 3 deities, but only ONE God. |
Three deities is polytheism. None of my Trinitarian friends would say that they believe in more than one deity. |
errr......Mattathias, you wouldn't happen to be bald would you?
Cause apparently my last post went completely over your head.
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eleven
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Mattathias wrote: | | eleven wrote: | Don't you get it?
WE are God!!! |
I was raised in the Southern Baptist Church. I never heard any Southern Baptist pastor (then or since) teach that we are God. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't think the doctrine of the Trinity teaches the idea that we are God. |
YEAH ! That was my first reaction too!!!
Don't worry about defining the Trinity, just keep going with it, and you will find something utterly astounding!
Have a nice journey!
SIAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mattathias
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | | Don't worry about defining the Trinity, just keep going with it, and you will find something utterly astounding! |
I think I already have.
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eleven
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| Mattathias wrote: | | eleven wrote: | | Don't worry about defining the Trinity, just keep going with it, and you will find something utterly astounding! |
I think I already have. |
Marvelous, so don't stop there, keep going!!!
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Mattathias
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| eleven wrote: | | Marvelous, so don't stop there, keep going!!! |
I think I'll wait and see what the (orthodox) Trinitarians do with it. 
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ragman13
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| Mattathias wrote: | | I think I'll wait and see what the (orthodox) Trinitarians do with it. |
Hi Yeah I think I would like to know a little about this statement also Eleven.
| eleven wrote: | Don't you get it?
WE are God!!! |
Eleven when I am praying to God the Father does that mean that I am praying to you?
How is it that you are God? Do you mean "a god" (little g)?
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eleven
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| Mattathias wrote: | | eleven wrote: | | Marvelous, so don't stop there, keep going!!! |
I think I'll wait and see what the (orthodox) Trinitarians do with it. |
Have it your way.
Isaiah 56
10 Israel's watchmen are blind,
they all lack knowledge;
they are all mute dogs,
they cannot bark;
they lie around and dream,
they love to sleep.
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eleven
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| eleven wrote: | Don't you get it?
WE are God!!! |
Eleven when I am praying to God the Father does that mean that I am praying to you?
How is it that you are God? Do you mean "a god" (little g)? |
No, I said WE are God.
What's the big mystery here? Jesus said it first.
If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father, for the Father and I are ONE.
Now if you are in Jesus, and Jesus is in the Father , who does that make you?
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ragman13
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A son by adoption.
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eleven
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| ragman13 wrote: | | A son by adoption. |
That is correct. But legally, an adopted son has the same rights as the rest of the family. Read on......
Romans 8
12Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation—but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, 14because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship.And by him we cry, "Abba, Father." 16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. 17Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Keep going..........
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JimD
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| Quote: | | GC asks: Perhaps it would help if we addressed this question in the form of a parable: Let's say that Jesus was this really great rabbi, and we really wanted to be His disciple, what doctrines would He have required us to accept in order to become His disciple and participate in His religious practices? |
That He was the Christ.
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eleven
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| JimD wrote: | | Quote: | | GC asks: Perhaps it would help if we addressed this question in the form of a parable: Let's say that Jesus was this really great rabbi, and we really wanted to be His disciple, what doctrines would He have required us to accept in order to become His disciple and participate in His religious practices? |
That He was the Christ. |
Ok, next question.
You have accepted that He is the Christ, so now what?
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JimD
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eleven asks: Ok, next question.
You have accepted that He is the Christ, so now what? |
We are to try to love others the way he loves us, which is more than he loved himself, The new command.
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