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ChristianWoman1
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo wrote:
Hmmm. All male advice, I see.

oh you noticed?? Laughing Laughing aww...I appriciate their advice so far...but I"d love to hear your thoughts as well as other women here too.



I would be asking why your husband doesn't want to be home with you and the family. Something going on there, I think.

no...I don't think so, really. My husband truely IS a work-aholic. He's a man who can count on one hand how many days of work he has missed in 20years. He NEVER misses work, even when he's injured on the job...he gets stitched up and goes right back Rolling Eyes He's an over achiever...a perfectionist with his welding, but I have to say I"m proud of his talents. He was awarded one of the top welders in all of Ohio in 2006 Very Happy When he first started this business he worked it from the garage of our home and people just "show up" ALL the time...they pay no attention to hours Confused or disgusted They expect him to drop everything and work on their car ASAP. Car enthusiests are crazy! Laughing

But anyhow...He's often depressed about not being home much, which is why I keep my mouth shut most of the time. He's really stuck right now with the shop..he has a lease. He has customers, he has employees. He can't just walk away...so I understand that. It's just been going on for SO long, SO many years....
He would love for me to go work withhim at the shop, but obviously I can't with the kids . ..one day maybe.

I truely don't believe for one second that he doesn't want to come home...he just feels he can't. While he's at work all day he has this other guy working for him that is suppose to be running the shop until he gets off at 3:00...but this guy is very unreliable, not there to open the shop in the morning like he's suppose to and not showing up alltogether on some days...this is very stressful for my husband.

No..I don't think he's avoiding home...that's not it.

Before you solve any other problems, you need to find the unspoken reason why he avoids coming home even between jobs.

You need to press him for the true answer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ChristianWoman1;

As far as the questions eleven asked, I had similar questions in my mind when I read your post.

I was married once before to a man who was not faithful to me.

I am now married to a man who is faithful and loving. He is the epitome of a good man. He believes in God. He believes in the bible. He supports me going to church, taking our daughter to church and reading the bible at home.

I support and show love to him by helping out around the house and helping support our household. I also support him by spending quality time with him and being there when he needs me.

Your husband is working a lot of overtime and so you don't get to spend much quality time with him. He's working to support the family and ensure a brighter future for your family. That makes things hard on you but it is also hard on him.

I wonder if you are studying the bible during this precious time to avoid intimate conversation and bonding with him because you are upset that he is not spending enough time at home. My oldest daughter used to tell me that I was 'passive-agressive' with her dad when I was angry with him. Being honest, yes, I was sometimes. It was my way of letting him know I was upset and/or of gaining a little control over a situation I had no control over.

You have a golden opportunity here. You have time in the morning that you and your husband could be spending together before you both head off to your separate responsibilities. You could make breakfast for both of you and have a cup of coffee (if you drink it) together and talk to each other. He sounds like a great guy.

I have had people tell me how "sad" it is that my husband doesn't attend church. I'm not sad. I know he loves God and he lives his life accordingly. He has a good, strong heart and treats people with love and respect. He is charitable sometimes to a fault. Jesus is our judge and Jesus knows that. Your husband sounds much like mine. Please appreciate him for what and who he is. You have other times you can study.

If you focus on your husband for a little while each day, your love and your relationship will strengthen and grow. You'll never regret it and that is in keeping with what the bible teaches.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for the kind words Luv, I appriciate it.

My husband IS a good man Wink I love him so very much and respect him completley. He does go to church with us every sunday morning...we never miss. He supports the big kids being involved with church activities like sunday school, youth group, bible study ect...we're up there alot Laughing
I think what I"ve gotten most out of everyone's responses so far is that I need to just pay more attention to him. I think I"m the one holding resentment for him not being here and me raising the kids alone all these years Embarassed When he first started this business [about 3years into it] I began getting frustrated with his absence....but I was told by several people to just "be patient..give his business a chance"...and I have been...and here we are 12 years later and nothing has changed.
I need to let go of this resentment.

There really is no time with him in the morning...he leaves just 10 minutes after he get up . He doesn't get to bed until almost 1:00AM most nights and he's up again by 5:30AM...he's completely exhausted. Crying or Very sad I"m afraid for his health! How many years can he go on with such a schedule??
And like I said before...I DO make his coffee and pack his lunch every morning and 'send him off ' on his way...it's not much, but it's something.

I defiinetly see the areas where I need to make some changes [ my attitude for one]..but I also see where he too needs to put his family first .

I 'm starting to think this is no coincidence...We all know that satan can't stand when we reach for God and strive to grow closer to Him Confused or disgusted Things got much worse around here a few months back when I began this spiritual "growth spurt" Rolling Eyes ...I think satan has his hands all over it Confused or disgusted There's nothing more he would love to see more than me and my husband pulling apart.

I"ve got to remember that the next time I feel annoyed with my husband.

Thank you for your advice again...I truely appriciate it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a brother who spent most of his married life working in the states (we're from Canada) away from his family and wife. He only came home on weekends. He did it to provide for his family because he could make considerably more money in the states.

After twenty years they got divorced. Money is never a substitute for spending time with your family, even if you have to do with less.

My husband is a contractor and every customer insists they need their work done right away and in a hurry. He used to work weekends to satisfy them until he just said no more. He just nicely puts his foot down about it and he hasn't lost one customer over it.

He also does not hire people who are unreliable and don't show up for work. Anyone who tried it was quickly put straight.

It sounds like both you and your husband are way too lenient with other people and they will take advantage if you let them. Your husband should explain to people that their work will be done in a realistic time frame.

You both need to control the situation rather than let it control you.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo wrote:
I have a brother who spent most of his married life working in the states (we're from Canada) away from his family and wife. He only came home on weekends. He did it to provide for his family because he could make considerably more money in the states.

After twenty years they got divorced. Money is never a substitute for spending time with your family, even if you have to do with less.

oh how sad Crying or Very sad I pray we NEVER get to that point. My husband and I love eachother VERY deeply and we are both against divorce, although I"m sure that's satan's goal Confused or disgusted I couldn't imagine...

and you are right, money isn't everything. We have alot less now just because I don't work Rolling Eyes Having 4 children and being a stay at home mother has got to be one of the toughest roads to travel with todays economy... if you can only imagine the corners I cut to get by.

His business doesn't even supplement our home much Embarassed it's basically supporting itself....it's been 12 years now...when will profits ever overflow into our home?


My husband is a contractor and every customer insists they need their work done right away and in a hurry. He used to work weekends to satisfy them until he just said no more. He just nicely puts his foot down about it and he hasn't lost one customer over it.

wise man Wink My husband has put his foot down a bit more than years ago...but not enough, that's for sure.

He also does not hire people who are unreliable and don't show up for work. Anyone who tried it was quickly put straight.

I"ve told my husband to let this man go over and over again, but the problem is finding a replacelent. He has to be able to trust the new person with keys to his shop...someone to open the doors at 9:00AM....and he's not finding ANYONE Crying or Very sad He's really stuck...but this guy who is unreliable is leaving in just 2 weeks my husband said. He doesn't want to be in the car biz anymore...so now we are praying for God to bring forth GOOD christian help! Could you remember this request in your prayer time also please??

I suggested to my husband that whomever he gets in there to help him that he be VERY firm with hours..treat them like employees and not friends. He must lay the line out from the beginning so the new person knows not to cross it.



It sounds like both you and your husband are way too lenient with other people and they will take advantage if you let them. Your husband should explain to people that their work will be done in a realistic time frame.

You both need to control the situation rather than let it control you.

you are absolutely right here... we are both very lenient Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey ChristianWoman,

I think what the situation boils down to is the difference between men and women. Your view of the situation has more of an emotional slant, where as your husbands view is slanted more toward practical matters.

You both work hard, I mean four kids and the youngest is 1-1/2. I don't know how you do it. I commend you! Your husband works just as hard. His mindset is geared towards keeping food on the table, and maintaining a certain standard of living, and/or striving for a better standard of living. Judging from your post, I would say your husband has a Proverbs 31 woman. He is more than likely striving to make things better, working two jobs, growing the business, in an effort to make YOUR life better.

Look, I know women want and need emotional bonding, and actually emotional maintenance, but from your husband’s point of view, he at least once told you that he loves you, probably has even demonstrated it to your satisfaction a time or two. In his mind, that you know he loves you is settled/proven, and he now has to focus on his responsibility of providing for the family.

I think he probably needs to become more aware of your emotional needs, but you need to understand his position as well, and allow for it.

Also from your OP I would say...you are not getting enough sleep. Sleep deprivation can result in a more emotional state.

I just hope and pray that you never begin to think that life might be better in some other relationship. All relationships have problems.

I wish you the best.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thank you for the kind words Luv, I appriciate it


You're welcome.

I had another thought.

Maybe the reason your husband is upset when you get up in the morning before he does to study is that takes you away from him.

My husband loves being with me at night and snuggling. Even when we're sleeping and not necessarily even touching, he loves that I'm there. He loves waking up in the morning and being able to touch me and hug me and yes, sometimes even more than that. I quite enjoy all of that, too.

My husband works nights so the two nights a week we get to spend together are treasured by both of us. On weekends when he is working, I stay in bed an extra 1/2 hour to an hour so that we have a little more time together in the morning when he comes home.

It may well be that your husband is missing and longing for this special innocent intimate time in the morning with just the two of you.

Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dust..thank you for your post...you really said everything so well..it hit home for me, thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took your advice this morning Luv...thanks Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChristianWoman1 wrote:
I took your advice this morning Luv...thanks Wink


You did?????
Well you know what that means, don't ya?

TODAY IS LAUNDRY DAY!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CW1,

Just some thoughts while I've read so far. I'll agree w/the other poster who said your husband really has a Proverbs 31 wife. So congratulations for that! It's not easy to achieve. Very Happy And it also sounds like your husband is trying his best to provide for all of you the best way he knows how--through work. My brother in-law is like that. His idea of taking care of his family is to work, work, work. But, in his first marriage, it was one of the reasons why it ended in divorce unfortunately. Sad

So, what can be done to avoid that? As another poster said, communication plays a big role in this. It seems like both of you are conflict avoiders, a relationship killer. Communicating your frustrations with each other, with the house, the children, all of that are essential to a good marriage. Go to God in prayer asking for the right words & then communicate that to your husband. You'll probably be surprised at what his concerns are once you come to him w/your concerns.

It's good to see that your husband is looking for a replacement for his lazy worker. It's so hard to find good help, isn't it? Razz Once he has a reliable worker, then maybe you'll see him a bit more than now.

I like that idea of taking one night a week to go eat w/hubby. I think he'd appreciate that. At least until he can get rid of the worker. That will probably help things a lot.

I know you want specific study time w/your Bible in hand. I commend you for that! You say your day is too filled to spend time in the Word. How about if you include the children w/you? Make a VBS of sorts at home? When my husband & I were seperated, I started Bible time w/the kids. Specific time of the day was dedicated to me & the kids in Bible time. We read a passage & then discussed it. It was very enriching hearing all the opinions that teenagers have to give! You might enjoy that! Especially if your older children are strong in their faith. Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eleven wrote:
ChristianWoman1 wrote:
I took your advice this morning Luv...thanks Wink


You did?????
Well you know what that means, don't ya?

TODAY IS LAUNDRY DAY!!!

Laughing Laughing Laughing


LOL!! Laughing Laughing yep! laundry...done! Laughing

thanks for the laugh Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evee wrote:
CW1,

Just some thoughts while I've read so far. I'll agree w/the other poster who said your husband really has a Proverbs 31 wife. So congratulations for that! It's not easy to achieve. Very Happy And it also sounds like your husband is trying his best to provide for all of you the best way he knows how--through work. My brother in-law is like that. His idea of taking care of his family is to work, work, work. But, in his first marriage, it was one of the reasons why it ended in divorce unfortunately. Sad

well I refuse to let satan win that game Confused or disgusted There will be no divorce here... above everything, I love and respect my husband FAR too much...and so does he towards me Wink Praise God! Very Happy

I often pray for protection over our marriage...


So, what can be done to avoid that? As another poster said, communication plays a big role in this. It seems like both of you are conflict avoiders, a relationship killer. Communicating your frustrations with each other, with the house, the children, all of that are essential to a good marriage. Go to God in prayer asking for the right words & then communicate that to your husband. You'll probably be surprised at what his concerns are once you come to him w/your concerns.

I have taken this advice to heart...this is true. I need to work on this, thank you..thank you.

It's good to see that your husband is looking for a replacement for his lazy worker. It's so hard to find good help, isn't it? Razz Once he has a reliable worker, then maybe you'll see him a bit more than now.

well..I doubt that Laughing but... if this is the way God intends it to be now, then so be it. I have to say...that since I made this post this week and prayed over several things, already the room feels lighter when he's home. God is working on our marriage in these areas ALREADY!! Very Happy

I like that idea of taking one night a week to go eat w/hubby. I think he'd appreciate that. At least until he can get rid of the worker. That will probably help things a lot.

well...last night he told me he will probably have to take time off his regular job to be at the shop when this lazy guy leaves. He has to be there to open the shop in the morning. So...I"m praying for God to bring in good help and to provide financially for us since he won't be bringing home a paycheck.

I would appriciate your prayers as well....next week begins a new struggle. Thank you!


I know you want specific study time w/your Bible in hand. I commend you for that! You say your day is too filled to spend time in the Word. How about if you include the children w/you? Make a VBS of sorts at home? When my husband & I were seperated, I started Bible time w/the kids. Specific time of the day was dedicated to me & the kids in Bible time. We read a passage & then discussed it. It was very enriching hearing all the opinions that teenagers have to give! You might enjoy that! Especially if your older children are strong in their faith. Just an idea.

thank you...

I do talk about scripture with the older kids all the time, but what my heart desires right now is good study / quiet time, if that makes sense. Our 2 youngest children are only 1 1/2 and 2 1/2yrs. old....so there isn't opportunity for "discussion", but we sure do sing worship songs ALL day long!! Very Happy ..beats the TV Wink

thank you for your post, thank you.




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess I must be crazy because CW I totally disagree with your approach to this whole thing. The advice you have received so far might temporarily change your attitude toward how you handle the resentment, but it will not serve you well in the long run unless your husband also changes his.

You have tried to paint your husband as such a loving good man and I dare say he might be, but his actions are completely selfish and misguided.

For one, if a business is not profitable within the first 5 - 7 years, it never will be unless major changes in marketing this business happen. Your husband has no time to market it. Maintaining this business for twelve years and now sacrificing the paycheck for it is throwing good money after bad.

One would have to ask why your husband keeps doing it. The answer is simple; pride. He does not want to admit failure - a totally man thing. What he does not recognize, is that it is already a failure. You are not doing him, nor yourself, nor your family a favor by not recognizing this truth. But I understand it, because it's easier to let things keep on sliding by than to confront them head on. You will bear the burden on your shoulders rather than wake him up to his responsibilities.

Been there, done that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojo wrote:


You have tried to paint your husband as such a loving good man and I dare say he might be, but his actions are completely selfish and misguided.


Shocked

Mojo wrote:

One would have to ask why your husband keeps doing it. The answer is simple; pride. He does not want to admit failure - a totally man thing. What he does not recognize, is that it is already a failure.


Shocked Shocked

Mojo wrote:

But I understand it, because it's easier to let things keep on sliding by than to confront them head on.


Shocked Shocked Shocked


I bet in your other life, you're a divorce attorney, huh?
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