30 Proofed reasons why Jesus is God.

Mattathias · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

Habeshaw.

I came across this while searching for something else this afternoon.

habeshaw · Growing Guppy Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 41

THE EIGHTH PROOF

Christ Is God With Respect to Him Being the Son of God

In this proof we are met with an important point:

(1) Are not human beings also called children of God?
Yes, human beings were called sons of God, but in a different sense than Christ's Sonship to God. It is written in the Book of Genesis that "the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful" (Gen. 6:2). Here the sons of God mean the sons of Seth and his son Enosh, when "men began to call on the name of the Lord" (Gen. 4:26), while the daughters of men are the descendants of Cain.

That is why the Lord said in the Book of Isaiah the Prophet: "I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against Me" (Is. 1:2). It is also written in the same Book: "You, 0 Lord, are our Father; our Redeemer" (Is. 63:16), and: "But now, 0 Lord, You are our Father,. we are the clay, and You our Potter; and all we are the work of Your hand" (Is. 64:8). This is a prophecy but it is said by human beings and does not at all mean Sonship of the essence of God.

The Lord said in the Book of Exodus: "Israel is My son, My first born" (Ex. 4:22), and in the Book of Proverbs: "My son, give Me your heart" (Prov. 23:26).

In the New Testament God is called 'our Father' in many
situations, as we say in the Lord's Prayer: "Our Father in
heaven" (Matt. 6:9). The phrases: 'your heavenly Father 'and' your Father who sees in secret are numerous in the Gospels.

(2) However, the Sonship of human beings to God is either through faith, or love, or adoption. With regard to faith, the Holy Bible says about Christ: "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name" (John 1: 12). The phrase 'children of God' here means the believers. St. John says in his first Epistle: "Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God!"(1
John 3:1) Therefore, it is an act of love from God to call us His children. With regard to adoption it is written in the Epistle to the Romans: "But we also who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body" (Rom. 8:23). It is known that whoever is called son and is not a real son, is son by adoption or son in a spiritual sense.

(3) Although we are children of God, we are still called
servants. The Lord Jesus Christ says: "When you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, 'We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do' " (Luke 17: 1 0). All the virtuous were called servants; the Lord will say to him who fought the good fight and deserved the Kingdom of Heaven: "Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your Lord"
(Matt. 25:23). Despite our being children of God, we are all created beings and the created being is not to be called a God.

(4) But the Lord Jesus Christ's Sonship is of the essence of God Himself. That is why He was sometimes called the Son or the Only Son because He has a unique Sonship which has the same Nature and Divinity with God.

Here we will explain how Christ's Sonship to the Father is not an ordinary Sonship, and how it was testified to by all, even by God the Father Himself, at moments of miracles in a way implying the Divinity of the Son.

(5) The testimony of the Father to the Son at His baptism. God the Father testified to Christ at the moment of His baptism, saying: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matt. 3:17); (Luke 3:22). This testimony was accompanied by miraculous signs: the heavens were opened, the Holy Spirit appeared in the form of a dove and descended
on Him, and a voice was heard from heaven, which was the voice of the Father bearing testimony. If Christ's Sonship was an ordinary sonship, and all people are children of God, what then was the need for all those signs? For the sake of this greatness which was manifested at the moment of Christ's baptism, we name this event Epiphany, that is, the Divine Manifestation.

(6) God the Father also testified to the Son at the
Transfiguration. The Father testified to the Son at that moment which declared His Divinity in front of His three disciples when "His clothes became shining, exceedingly white, like snow, such as no launderer on earth can whiten them. And Elijah appeared to them with Moses... And a cloud came and overshadowed them; and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, 'This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!"' (Mark 9:2-7) If Christ was an ordinary Son, why would He need a testimony from the Father? And why was there need for all the glory of the Transfiguration; the light and the cloud? And why was
there need for the voice of the Father? In addition to this, the phrase 'Hear Him' commands us also to submit to Him. If everyone was a Son of God, to whom did the Father testify with the same glory as that of Christ's baptism and transfiguration?

(7) The Father's testimony to the Son is from old. The
Father says to the Son in the second Psalm: " You are My Son, today I have begotten You. Ask of Me, and I will give You the nations for Your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron" (Ps. 2:7-9). This is Sonship with dominion over the ends of the earth, which St. Paul wondered at and mentioned when he explained how the Lord Jesus Christ is greater than the angels and even worshipped by them, saying: "For to which of the
angels did He ever say, 'You are My Son, today I have
begotten You'?” (Heb. 1:5)

(8) Christ's Sonship to God was the aim of writing the
Gospel. The Gospel according to St. Mark begins with the
statement: "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God" (Mark 1: 1). If Christ was a Son like all the children of God, what was the need for recording this
statement and all the miracles which the Evangelist recounted thereafter? In the Gospel according to St. John, we see that the Evangelist, after having recorded miracles not mentioned by any of the other Evangelists and after having recorded all Christ's discourses that indicated His Divinity, concluded by saying: "And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book,. but these
are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name" (John 20:30,3 1). Therefore, Christ's Sonship is not ordinary, but a unique Sonship which is proved by verses emphasising His Divinity. If He was an ordinary Son, what was the need for recounting all the miracles? They were written in order that we may believe that He is the Son of God and that our belief in this Sonship may give us life.
(9) Christ's Sonship to God was the foundation of the
Church. The Lord Jesus Christ asked His disciples about their belief and the people's belief in Him, saying: " Who do men say that I, the Son of man, am?" When St. Peter answered Him: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God", He called him blessed, saying: "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." Then the Lord added, "on this rock I will build My
church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:13-18).
If Christ's Sonship was an ordinary sonship, what was the need for this blessedness? And what was the need for the heavenly revelation from God the Father? What is the meaning of building the Church on this rock of faith? This will be explained in detail when we will talk about the Divinity of Christ with respect to belief in Him as the Son of God.

(10) Christ's Sonship to God was the reason for the
Sanhedrin's sentencing Him to death. The chief priests could not find a reason to condemn Him because even though many false witnesses came forward, their testimonies did not agree. So the high priest rose and said to Him: I adjure You by the living God that You tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God" (Matt. 26:63). If His Sonship was an ordinary sonship like the sonship of all the people to God, what was the significance of the high priest adjuring Him before the greatest Synagogue at the time asking Him if He was the Son of God?

When the Lord answered in the affirmative, adding two points befitting His Divinity, namely, that He will sit at the right hand of the {Father} and will come in His glory on the clouds of heaven, "the highpriest tore his clothes, saying, 'He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy!"' (Matt. 26:63-65) And they sentenced Him to death for this reason.

(11) Christ's Sonship was the object of Satan's bewilderment. In the Lord's temptation in the wilderness, we find Satan saying to Him: "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread" (Matt. 4:3). Satan's question implied the Sonship to God which has extraordinary miraculous power that can change stone into bread, and not the ordinary sonship of all
the children of God. Again Satan asked the same question at the Crucifixion, through the mouths of the people who said: "If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross" (Matt. 27:40). Therefore it was understood by all that Christ's Sonship was not a common sonship, but a Sonship which had miraculous power that could enable descent from the cross.

(12) This Sonship was the subject of the Annunciation. The angel said to the Virgin Mary: "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35). If Christ was the Son of God in the same sense as the children of God, then there would have been no need for the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Virgin and for the power of the Highest to overshadow her, in order
for Him to be called the Son of God. Therefore this Sonship is the Sonship of the Holy Spirit, as the angel said to Joseph: "for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 1:20). Also, the angel said to the Virgin Mary that her Son "will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end" (Luke 1:32,33). No one among men rules forever and has a kingdom which has no end; but this
is attributed to God alone. Therefore the Annunciation to the Virgin about the Sonship to God carried a Divine meaning that He reigns forever, and that His kingdom will have no end. There is a possibility that the angel's announcement was taken from Daniel's prophecy about Christ as the Son of Man, which says: "Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom the one which shall not be
destroyed" (Dan. 7:13,14).

(13) The relation of Christ's Sonship to the Godhead is
mentioned in the Book of Isaiah who said: "For unto us a
Child is born, unto us a Son is given;and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace" (Is. 9:6). In the same prophecy we find both terms 'Son' and 'Mighty God', and the Word 'Wonderful’ reminds us of the Lord's words to Manoah, Samson's father: "Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?" (Jud. 13:18)

(14) The relation between Christ's Sonship to the Godhead is also mentioned in the Book of Proverbs, which says: "Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name and what is His Son's name, if you know?" (Prov. 30:9)
Here, the Scripture does not refer to an ordinary son of God's children but an Only Son, distinguished from all others because He is of the same Nature and Essence with God.

(15) There is a profession of Christ's Sonship to God in the miracle of walking on the sea. This miracle implies His
Divinity because it is a miraculous dominion over nature. The Lord Jesus Christ walked on the water in a wonderful
miraculous way the disciples had never seen. Then St. Peter said to Him: "Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water. " When the Lord permitted him, Peter walked on the water by the power of the Lord, then doubted and sank, and the Lord saved him. What happened after that? The Gospel says: "Then those who were in the boat came and worshipped Him, saying, 'Truly You are the Son of God"' (Matt. 14:25-3 3). Did the disciples mean by the word 'Son' ordinary sonship like the rest of God's children? This is impossible because walking on water and allowing one's disciple to walk on water is not an aspect of being one of God's
children. That is why the disciples worshipped Christ whilst using the expression 'Son of God'. Their worship was a profession that Christ is the Son of God and that His Sonship is unique and of extraordinary miraculous dominion over wind and water.

(16) Nathanael also professed that Christ is the Son of God whose Sonship is of miraculous and mighty Divinity. The Lord said to Nathanael: "Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you" (John 1:48). When Nathanael realized the power of the Lord to know the unseen whether He saw him just before Philip called him, or knew a hidden incident in his past, he replied saying: "Rabbi, You are the Son of God!"
(John 1:49) Of course Nathanael did not mean the ordinary sonship, but he meant the Sonship which has the Divine quality of knowing the unseen. The Lord Jesus Christ accepted this confession from Nathanael and in order to confirm his belief, added: "Because I said to you, 'I saw you under the fig tree,' do you believe? You will see greater things than these... hereafter you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man" (John 1:50,5 1).

(17) The belief of the centurion in Christ as the Son of God happened after a miracle. The Gospel according to our teacher St. Matthew says: "Now when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, 'Truly this was the Son of God!"' (Matt. 27:54); (Mark 15:38,39) When they saw the miracle of the earthquake and the darkness that came over the whole earth from the sixth hour (midday)
until the ninth hour, they believed and said: "Truly this was the Son of God!" They meant the Sonship which has dominion over nature and that is why the Gospel says: "they feared." Maybe their faith was strengthened when they saw blood and water coming out of His side when the soldier pierced Him (John 19:34).

(18) The miracle of the Lord's Baptism made John the
Baptist testify that Christ was the Son of God. He said: "I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptise with water said to me, 'Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptises with the Holy Spirit.' And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God" (John 1: 3 3,34). This Sonship to God, to which John the priest and prophet testified, is not an ordinary sonship but a
Sonship which implied His Divinity, and was declared after a miracle. That was why John the Baptist said on the same occasion: "This is He of whom I said, 'After me comes a Man who is preferred before me, for He was before me"' (John 1:30), and it is known that Christ was born six months after John the Baptist.

(19) A confession of Christ's Sonship to God came after the miracle of giving sight to the man born blind. After performing the miracle, the Lord met the man born blind and said to him: " 'Do you believe in the Son of God?' He answered and said, 'Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him? 'And Jesus said to him, 'You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you. 'Then he said, 'Lord, I believe!' And he worshipped Him" (John 9:35-38). This discourse was not about a common
sonship shared by all people, otherwise the man born blind would not have asked: "Who is He, Lord?" If it were an ordinary sonship, the man born blind would have said: "We are all God's children. I, even I, am a son of God." But it was a Sonship which needed faith and a miracle, and resulted in the man born blind worshipping the Lord as the Son of God. What adds to the importance of this miracle is that it carries a declaration from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself that He is the
Son of God, as well as a call from Him to all people to believe in this.

(20) The belief in Christ's Sonship to God needed preaching and interpretation. This appears explicitly in the incident of the Ethiopian eunuch who was met by Philip whilst reading Isaiah's prophecy about Christ. He could not understand the meaning of what he was reading, so Philip explained the chapter to him and preached Christ to him. The Ethiopian eunuch asked Philip to baptise him and Philip replied: "'If you believe with all your heart, you may. 'And he answered and said, 'I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God"' (Acts 8:27-37). Common
sonship does not need any explanation or interpretation or preaching because it is common to all.

(21) The same may be said about Martha who professed her belief after the Lord had explained to her that He is the resurrection and the life, saying: "'He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live'... She said to Him, 'Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world' " (John 11:25-27). Of course Martha meant a special Sonship which has a miraculous quality ascertained by the clause "who is to come into the world" which means that He is not of this world, but has come into it.

(22) Christ's Sonship was declared by the Lord Jesus
Himself on more than one occasion. It is clear from His call to the man born blind to believe in the Son of God (John 9:35- 37). And also from His words to the angel of the church in Thyatira in the Book of Revelation where He says: "These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass" (Rev. 2:18). It is also plain in all the Lord's discourses about the Son of God.

(23) Christ's Sonship is in the Holy Trinity. The Lord Jesus
said to His disciples: "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). The use of the word 'name' in the singular form means that the Three are One. Because His Sonship to the Father is not a common sonship but a special One entailing His Divinity, He is called 'the Son'.

(24) The phrase 'the Son' in the Holy Bible means Christ
only. The Lord Jesus Christ says of Himself. "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed" (John 8:36). He said these words in preaching that He came to free them from their sins. St. John the Evangelist said: "He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son of God does not have life" (1 John 5:12). Thus he used in one verse the two terms: 'the Son' and
'the Son of God' to refer to One Person. He also said: "And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Saviour of the world" (1 John 4:14). The term 'the Son' on its own means Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ talked about Himself as the Son and as the Son of God.

(25) The Jews understood this Sonship to God with its
Divine meaning. That was why when they asked Him in the Sanhedrin if He was the Son of God, and He replied in the affirmative, "the high priest tore his clothes, saying, 'He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses?' " (Matt. 26:65) The Gospel according to St. John says: "Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the
Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making
Himself equal with God" (John 5:18). This Divinity was the reason for the Jews seeking to kill Him, as they said to Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God" (John 10: 33). That was the accusation for which they crucified Him, saying to Pilate: "We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God" (John 19:7).

The common sonship, of which Isaiah said: "O Lord, You are our Father" (Is. 64:8), was not the reason of sentencing Christ to death, but it was the particular Sonship which carries the meaning of His Divinity and that He is equal with God.

This leads us to the ninth proof.

Mattathias · Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject:

Habeshaw.

What does the term "begotten" mean?
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Mattathias · Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:31 am Post subject:

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 160

In the beginning was the 'son'? Really, that is some way to reason the truth of a trinity that does not exist. The Old Testament prophets tell you exactly who Yeshua is and why He came. In Matthew chapter 5 verse 17 Yeshua tells us that He did not come to change the law or the prophets. I don't know how you came to this conclusion except by believing teachings of the church. If Yeshua did not come to change God's laws which obviously came from the Old Testament, who are we to change them?