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Key of Twilight
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Why not? Homosexuality is not contagious and the advertisements will not turn unsuspecting readers gay and its not saying being gay is okay... All it says is hey if you are gay come here we will not chase you out of town or gay bash you. Homosexuals are a great market for things like tourism etc since a great percentage of homosexuals do not have children.
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Ryck
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| Key of Twilight wrote: | | Why not? Homosexuality is not contagious and the advertisements will not turn unsuspecting readers gay and its not saying being gay is okay... All it says is hey if you are gay come here we will not chase you out of town or gay bash you. Homosexuals are a great market for things like tourism etc since a great percentage of homosexuals do not have children. |
May not be contagious but it is repulsive to me. On Saturday me and one of my cousins sat down for a free concert in the park. These two guys in front of us were just touchy, feely, play-me on their beach blanket to an extent that after five minutes my cousin told me he just HAS TO MOVE and wanted to sit somewhere else.
I tried my best to look over them and enjoy the concert going on the stage. But I didn't blame my cousin's revulsion.
Sometimes I wish the homosexuals kept their act in the closet rather than putting it into the face of people. Certainly advertizing for that kind of behavior is not going to benefit anybody except drive the people out to some other city which they can enjoy with their familes and young ones where they don't have to have this in their faces. |
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FFT
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| Ryck wrote: | | May not be contagious but it is repulsive to me. |
Awwww
| Ryck wrote: | | On Saturday me and one of my cousins sat down for a free concert in the park. These two guys in front of us were just touchy, feely, play-me on their beach blanket to an extent that after five minutes my cousin told me he just HAS TO MOVE and wanted to sit somewhere else. |
This is the correct response anyway. If it bothers you, move. I do the same (or ignore it) when I see any couple making out, regardless of their genders.
| Ryck wrote: | | Sometimes I wish the homosexuals kept their act in the closet rather than putting it into the face of people. Certainly advertizing for that kind of behavior is not going to benefit anybody except drive the people out to some other city which they can enjoy with their familes and young ones where they don't have to have this in their faces. |
How is it inherently any more repulsive than heterosexuals doing the same thing beyond that homosexuality apparently makes you uncomfortable?
I mean, do you feel like you should have been consulted or something?
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Ryck
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| FFT wrote: | | Ryck wrote: | | May not be contagious but it is repulsive to me. |
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I know you don't have feelings. LOL!
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| Ryck wrote: | | On Saturday me and one of my cousins sat down for a free concert in the park. These two guys in front of us were just touchy, feely, play-me on their beach blanket to an extent that after five minutes my cousin told me he just HAS TO MOVE and wanted to sit somewhere else. |
This is the correct response anyway. If it bothers you, move. I do the same (or ignore it) when I see any couple making out, regardless of their genders.
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I don't mind romance between the sexes. I like it. I think if heterosexuals and homosexuals want to foreplay, they should go rent a room rather than doing it in the park where people are TRYING to see and listen to a concert with their children around.
If these people wanted to smoke ten pound stogies, I'd move to another section of the park too. But why INSIST on being an annoyance to others? Why can't you just maintain a common denominator of behavior with everyone else for just a couple of hours?
Or, as I said, just leave, get a motel room, and take care of your business.
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| Ryck wrote: | | Sometimes I wish the homosexuals kept their act in the closet rather than putting it into the face of people. Certainly advertizing for that kind of behavior is not going to benefit anybody except drive the people out to some other city which they can enjoy with their familes and young ones where they don't have to have this in their faces. |
How is it inherently any more repulsive than heterosexuals doing the same thing beyond that homosexuality apparently makes you uncomfortable?
I mean, do you feel like you should have been consulted or something? |
Is that like a smoker asking me if they can light up a cigarette in my presense?
Sure, it would be nice. I'll tell them that I'm sensitive to tobacoo smoke and would appreciate their refraining from that for the duration.
Then after that you have those that do it anyway or those that are considerate. I appreciate the latter because I've seen too much assuming of the former. |
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FFT
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| Ryck wrote: | I don't mind romance between the sexes. I like it. I think if heterosexuals and homosexuals want to foreplay, they should go rent a room rather than doing it in the park where people are TRYING to see and listen to a concert with their children around.
If these people wanted to smoke ten pound stogies, I'd move to another section of the park too. But why INSIST on being an annoyance to others? Why can't you just maintain a common denominator of behavior with everyone else for just a couple of hours?
Or, as I said, just leave, get a motel room, and take care of your business. |
The problem here isn't their resspective gender, but that they're inconsiderate people. Why not leave it at that?
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Agree = FFT
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Ryck,
Seems to me that you were repulsed by the PDA, not the homosexuality. If the couple were sitting there holding hands enjoying the show as you were, it probably would not have bothered you. Although I could be wrong.
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Ryck
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| FFT wrote: | | Ryck wrote: | I don't mind romance between the sexes. I like it. I think if heterosexuals and homosexuals want to foreplay, they should go rent a room rather than doing it in the park where people are TRYING to see and listen to a concert with their children around.
If these people wanted to smoke ten pound stogies, I'd move to another section of the park too. But why INSIST on being an annoyance to others? Why can't you just maintain a common denominator of behavior with everyone else for just a couple of hours?
Or, as I said, just leave, get a motel room, and take care of your business. |
The problem here isn't their resspective gender, but that they're inconsiderate people. Why not leave it at that? |
Granted, they were inconsiderate people. Perhaps they wanted to add an extra level of disgust to the inconsideration in a family forum. It was their gender that raised the shock value so it played a factor. |
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Ryck
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Seems to me that you were repulsed by the PDA, not the homosexuality. If the couple were sitting there holding hands enjoying the show as you were, it probably would not have bothered you. Although I could be wrong. |
Sorry, I don't know "PDA".
If they were holding hands I can look above them and ignore them if they just stayed still. But they just kept touching and fondling between themselves. The motion in my periphery kept catching my attention to what they were doing. |
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Public Display of Affection
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| Ryck wrote: | | Perhaps they wanted to add an extra level of disgust to the inconsideration in a family forum. |
Or they were just inconsiderate. Are you actually pondering whether they were intentionally doing it to make people uncomfortable?
| Ryck wrote: | | It was their gender that raised the shock value so it played a factor. |
No doubt.
| Ryck wrote: | | Sorry, I don't know "PDA". |
"Public Display(s) of Affection"
| Ryck wrote: | | If they were holding hands I can look above them and ignore them if they just stayed still. But they just kept touching and fondling between themselves. The motion in my periphery kept catching my attention to what they were doing. |
Maybe you're just overly concerned with the actions of others, then? Particularly to those of the same gender for its "shock value."
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Ryck
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| FFT wrote: | | Ryck wrote: | | Perhaps they wanted to add an extra level of disgust to the inconsideration in a family forum. |
Or they were just inconsiderate. Are you actually pondering whether they were intentionally doing it to make people uncomfortable?
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It's no secret or shouldn't be these days.
For example, in Gay Pride parades you often see obscene behavior. They are doing that intentionally to make people uncomfortable or are we straight people just imagining things?
I guess I missed the notice that waving dildos into the air was not supposed to be interpreted as anything but family valued entertainment.
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| Ryck wrote: | | If they were holding hands I can look above them and ignore them if they just stayed still. But they just kept touching and fondling between themselves. The motion in my periphery kept catching my attention to what they were doing. |
Maybe you're just overly concerned with the actions of others, then? Particularly to those of the same gender for its "shock value." |
No. But when it is done in your face, its hard not to miss it. |
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Key of Twilight
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| Ryck wrote: | For example, in Gay Pride parades you often see obscene behavior. They are doing that intentionally to make people uncomfortable or are we straight people just imagining things?
I guess I missed the notice that waving dildos into the air was not supposed to be interpreted as anything but family valued entertainment. |
First let it be known that we are not all like the people you see in the parades, not implying that you were saying we were, but all the same let it be known. The people committing these "obscene behaviors" are acting out against a society they have devalued because it has demoralized them their entire lives. There is a large percentage of the gay community that are reaching out for something anything to give their life meaning and when the are constantly told wherever they go that they have no seat in the house of God they find other places to go. These things being not of God are of the world and of sin. WE TURN GAY PEOPLE AGAINST GOD. So when we see people striking out against us with obscene behavior we should not recoil or think lowly of them, we should feel sympathy and show them Jesus loves all of us just the way we are, He may not approve of the things we do but he loves us none the less. We should not tell them "God will love you only if you become straight or celibate". Whether it is we ourselves, or someone else that has told a gay person that they are unwanted in the Kingdom of God, we should take responsibility for it. We are the children of God, each and everyone of us, and to just let people slip away from God because of what someone said and justifying ourselves with "I was not the person who said it it is not my problem" we are doing a terrible disservice to our Lord and to our brothers and sisters here on Earth.
| Ryck wrote: | | If they were holding hands I can look above them and ignore them if they just stayed still. But they just kept touching and fondling between themselves. The motion in my periphery kept catching my attention to what they were doing. |
You are singling the gay couple out just because of who they are and because they were by you. If it had been a straight couple doing the same thing it is unlikely you would be on here talking about it.
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