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Texas Kitten
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Are you a fighter against God? |
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Could it be possible that there is some merit to the Preterists teaching that the Christ came into kingdom power in the year 70AD and that the Revelation account was completely fulfilled in that year? Is their interpretation of these teachings correct, or is it possible there may be reason to believe that this is, to say the least, flawed reasoning? Without hesitation I say that their reasoning has to be seriously flawed; because scripture shows that their teachings could never be true; and for the following reasons.
Jehovah has very carefully guarded his Holy Word from those do not really appreciate spiritual things. We know that from the following verses of scripture: "And the disciples came and said to him, "Why do you speak to them in parables?" Jesus answered them, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted." [Mathew 13:10,11] [NASB] So, anyone putting forth an interpretaion of scripture wants to make very sure that he has been granted to understand the Bible. If they, [whoever] are not certain that they have been granted to understand it, then their interpretation will be worthless, to them, and certainly to others as well. One other scripture that needs to be considered is found at Luke 24:45 where we learn this: "Then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures." [Luke 21:45] When these two things happen for any individual then, and only then, will their interpretation be worthwhile considering. But, there is one more thing that is essential to gaining accurate knowledge of the Bible, and what that is we learn about in John 14: 16,17 [CEV] where it is written: "Then I will ask the Father to send you the Holy Spirit who will help you and always be with you. The Spirit will show you what is true. The people of this world cannot accept the Spirit, because they don't see or know him. But you know the Spirit, who is with you and will keep on living in you." This is the main reason that the world's Christian's do not understand the Bible, Preterists included, because they are as much a part of this World as any other Religion.
None of them have been granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, none of them have had their minds fully opened by the Christ so that they can grasp the meaning of the scriptures; and none of them are in possession of the Holy Spirit, so that they can gain the truth of the Bible.
Those who have been granted to understand the Holy Writings, who have had their minds fully opened to grasp the meaning of the scriptures, and who have recieved the Holy Spirit will uderstand even the deep things of God. [1Corinthians 2:10] "They will know the truth and the truth will set them free." [John 8:32] [KJV] Though dwelling in the invisible heavens with his Father Jehovah, they will be able to see the Christ with their eyes of understanding opened. [Ephesians 1 :18] But what about this World in general? Will they see the Christ in the invisible heavens? Not according to the words of Jesus. Note what he had to say about this: "A little longer and the World will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you will live also." [John 14: 19] [KJV] Why is it that the World cannot now see the Christ in his glorified position in kingdom power? The Apostle Paul will explain: "But if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this World hath blinded the minds which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." [2 Corinthians 4:3,4]
So they do not see the Christ in his glorified position at his Fathers right hand because satan has blinded their minds, and has managed to deceive them, as John predicted that he would. Note these words about that: ... "and the great dragon was cast forth -- the old serpent, who is called 'devil' and 'the adversary', who is leading astray the whole world --- he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him." [Revelation 12:9] So, then, satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth, and holds the 'whole world in his power.' [1john 5:19] This is the principle or main reason that the Preterists teach that the Christ came into kingdom power in 70AD. This is the main reason the Preterists teach that the Revelation account has been completely fulfilled. This is also the principle or main reason teachings such as the Trinity Doctrine, the Immortal Soul Doctrine, the torment in a fiery hell doctrine exist. They teach those things because satan has blinded their minds, and not being granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, not having their minds fully opened by the Christ and lacking the Holy Spirit, they are unable to see the truth of the Bible. They are unable to see that even to this day, the Christ has not taken up ruling authority in the heavens; so they have no other recourse but to teach the lie, lacking the principle ingredients as they do, necessary to teach the truth of the Bible.
So, we can see that there is every reason to believe that the Preterists teachings are seriously flawed, as are the teachings of Christendoms mainline Churchs.
For those who will disagree with this article, I would remind you of the following words of Jesus:
John 14:16
16 Then I will ask My Father and He will give you another Helper. He will be with you forever.
John 14:1717 He is the Spirit of Truth. The world cannot receive Him. It does not see Him or know Him. You know Him because He lives with you and will be in you. [NLV]
Now since the World cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, or know him,they also will not be granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens nor will they have their minds opened to grasp the meaning of the scriptures; so of what benefit will any of their interpretations of scripture be to anyone? I answer! Lacking the Holy Spirit of no benefit at all!
I would like to close with the words of the Apostle Paul at 2 Corinthians 4:2 "Instead, we have given up doing secret and shameful things. We don't twist God's word. In fact, we do just the opposite. We present the truth plainly. In the sight of God, we make our appeal to everyone's sense of what is right and wrong." [NIRV]
In the sight of God, I have told you all,the truth! So, ask yourselves, What is right? What is wrong? Is there any merit to the Preterists teachings? Could their in the light what is written here, interpretations be correct? Or, is it true, that their reasoning is seriously flawed?
I know there will be some who will strongly disagree with what I have stated here, but, if I have done as I have said, ...'present the truth plainly' ... then it is God's word you will be disagreeing with, not mine, and you may find yourselves in the finale' actually being fighters against God: "But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." [Acts 5: 38,39] |
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RevJP Moderator

Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I stopped reading after this:
| Quote: | | Jehovah has very carefully guarded his Holy Word from those do not really appreciate spiritual things. |
For some reason, any time someone has to prequalify what they are arguing by insinuating that if you do not agree with it you are anti-christ or some such, I figure that what they have to say really isn't worth listening to. _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2673 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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RevJP:
Mark 4:
| Quote: | 10When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that,
" 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'[a]" |
Sounds like God does in fact guard his word and the world will just not get it no matter what.
If you remember the parable of the sower, there was the soil that didn't even receive the word of God, it was by the paths and the soil was hardened so it never penetrated. _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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RevJP Moderator

Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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45, I didn't say it wasn't so, I simply stated that anyone posting a treatise who has to put that in front in case anyone disagrees with him probably hasn't posted anything worth reading. _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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