Trinity worship most certainly is polytheism. Roman roots!

holly102869 · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:22 am Post subject:

Bro. Winter,

A Question;
What would Jesus do?

I am not so sure that he would do this:

MoJo · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

Bro winter. On this site we will not tolerate for long calling our fellow members filth and scum.

Consider this a warning. Clean up your act.

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stevie · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:19 am Post subject:

Bro. Steve Winter,

It sounds like you believe in the that the one Jesus is all of God and that there is nothing more to it, that the Trinity is false because they need more than Jesus? Correct?

Well you pointed it out in your open, in Acts 8:16,17 It says that they were already baptized into Jesus, but needed Peter and John to come and baptize them in the name of the Holy Spirit. Why would they need to do that if being baptized into Jesus was all of it? Now, that being said, Romans 10:9 says that you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe with your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Seems to me, that Jesus is all you need to be saved, for He does bring the whole Godhead, so to speak, but the Holy Spirit baptism is real and to have it is to be comforted.

Now, what do you think of Matthew 28:19? Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

It seems to me you better check yourself and I agree that your calling of others is innapropriate. I would like to hear your reply, cause it seems you do know some deep stuff though.

ragman13 · German Shepherd Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 325

Brother Steve,

Hello again,

Sorry if you think that I misquoted you. Let’s see where I went wrong.

I said:

Nobby · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject:

Bro. Steve Winter, I have allowed you much more freedom on this board than I should have! We don't call names on here. Shocked

Please Stop!
MoJo my moderator has already warned you so I'll just just suggest that you take heed in what she says! Confused or disgusted

Bro. Steve Winter · Big Guppy Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 49

Apparently there is some misunderstanding here. A false-christian moderator has no problem with a devil calling the true Church "false-religion", but doesn't want me speaking the truth about devils.

I believe that some of you folks have some serious misconceptions about the Lord of the Bible, who was the perfect example for the Christian..

I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously:

But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers.

Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and of all uncleanness.

Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian preacher, that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".

"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone preaching other than the original Acts 2:38 message:

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

(Check out Acts 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered to the Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)

Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If he's not preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure would!

I hope this helps.

Bro. sTeve Winter

ragman13 · German Shepherd Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 325

Give me a break brother steve. Here is some of the vomit that you have spewed from your mouth and you are mad because I said "false religion"

Joebob787 · Rattlesnake Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 435 Location: Nj

bro. Steve
How is calling people scum and false-christian filth showing how much Jesus loves us? Is this showing Love?

And according to your beliefs, Believing in the Trinity is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I was sure Blaspheming the holy spirit was saying Jesus did the works of the Devil, Not believeing in the trinity
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Zathrus · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject:

It's true what they say, that if you want to, you can justify just about anything with scripture.
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james · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 753

Bro Steve,
You wrote,
But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers.

Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and of all uncleanness.

Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian preacher, that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".
Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If he's not preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure would!

The Lord encountered these people through out His WHOLE MINISTRY, and yet ,SCRIPTUALLY, He did not speak as such until near the end of His ministry( Matt 23 !!!!) Again SCRIPTUALLY, He loved them and finally admonished them as such for continually rejecting truth.

Now I look at your example and you show NO LOVE toward any or a willingness to learn, for the most compassionate Master (who you stated was our example, and this is scriptually true) became a servant and washed the feet of all, even Judas'. The one who betrayed Him, the one He called Friend, even at the very end MATTHEW 26:50. THE ONE HE KNEW WOULD BETRAY HIM.

ChristianWoman1 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 290

wow...Bro. Steve, you have some REAL hate inside you Shocked

and it is NOT from God....you need to pray about that.

The Trinity is simply a latin term which means 'three in the unity of one'. Anyone who believes in the Trinity believes in only ONE true God, the Father the Almighty, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End....period. Every verse you laid out only proves that the Jesus in fact IS our Lord.

The Father and I are ONE" John 10:30

there are NO 3 GODS Confused or disgusted

as you claim those who believe in the Trinity believe...I have no clue where you get that #Nooo...not me!

it's like referencing me...I have several titles ; Mother, Wife, Sister, Aunt....but I"m still only ONE person.

There is only ONE God...and He is spirit, NOT flesh...He humbled Himself and came to this earth He created so that we could KNOW Him. Thre are many extensions to our bodies...we can't write without our fingers, we can't walk without our feet.... Jesus IS God!!

I"m just amazed at how absolutely rude you can be toward others...and condeming them to hell?? wow...that's bold! Laughing

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admin · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:45 am Post subject:

This post was reported for violation of board rules. So this is a note just to clarify our protocol.

Name calling of specific individuals is against board rules, but name calling of groups is not. For instance, you can say "filthy Christians" but not "filthy Jane Smith".

We want people to be able to express their feelings, but without libel or slander to individuals - that's the general idea.
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Nobby · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject:

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 156

This is not good!! I do not believe in the trinity but I do believe that those who do, truly believe what they have been taught is the truth.
I believe also that God tells us in His Word that He and He alone is the judge. No one has the right to call another names for what they believe.

I would prefer that all Christians know the truth and read the Bible. If they do not, all we can do is try to show them. Name calling isn't the answer now is it?