Is Jesus YHWH?

Mattathias · Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject:

Joebob.

I'm going to provide one quote from a Trinitarian scholar (named Vitingra) for you to consider concerning Isaiah 9:6. If you would like for me to post additional comments from other Trinitarian scholars I will.

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 156

Why is it necessary to quote from any book other then the Bible. Is it because the Bible doesn't agree with what you and your church believes. That's funny, the Bible is the inspired word of God, the church is not. The Bible distinctly tells us that Yeshua was born to a Hebrew women named Mary. This faith, unlike Christianity is passed down through the mother.
There is no trinity. Yeshua was an Orthodox Jew and it would be blasphemy for Him to teach such a thing. The Hebrew Apostles would not have followed Him at all. In the sermon on the mount Yeshua states emphatically He did not come to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfull. He also stated that not one part of the law, not one letter shall be done away with untill it all comes true.
This means simply that the Old Testament teachings, and the commandment are still valid. I know these have been twisted around and given another meanings and that certainly is a shame. The only Sacred book Yeshua had was the Hebrew scriptures which are our Old Testament. Think about that, when you read the Old Testament you read the words Yeshua Himself read.
Learn about Judaism, this is the faith of Yeshua. It is not a sin to find out what He believed, even though the church seems to think it is. The Jews did not kill Yeshua, the priests in the temple hated Him because they could see into their hearts and see the double standards and lies they told. Actually the great temple is, to me, very much like the Vatican in Rome.
What would Yeshua tell you? What would He say about this trinity? He's the one that sacrificed His life for us, not some guy trying to make a name for himself by writing a book.

Mattathias · Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject:

Joebob787 · Rattlesnake Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 435 Location: Nj

It sometimes neccesary because lets say you come across something really Hard to understand in the bible. Let say, The two prophets in Revelation. Some people have no clue who these people are. Others, Like myself, find it kinda simple. We write books about interpretations of the bible so that the people that do uderstand can help the people who don't understand even when their not there.
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Romans 1:16a I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 513

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 156

Who is a Jew?
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
above copy pasted from Judaism101 website.
Do Jews believe in trinities. No. Was Jesus a Jew, Yes.
Did He teach a trinity. No.
Jesus said in the Bible, Learn of me!. When are you going to do just that and stop learning from made - made churches.

JB · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 758

Rocket,

Don't you believe that Jesus was and still is God?

JB

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 513

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Mattathias · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject:

JimD · Young Wolf Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 513

Ga 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Anyone can point out a scripture here and there and prove anything they want to believe, but good theology is understanding the message of the gospel as a whole. Sincerely, JimD