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Plotinus
Growing Lion
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 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| Romans wrote: | | Plotinus when I say minority I am not referring to all people just Christians in general and God's word. Believe me not sure you want to be the minority when it comes to that. |
Hmmmmmm. I'm not sure I understand your argument. Why should I care whether I am in a minority? Are you arguing that the majority--among Christians let us say--must be correct? I see no logical reason why that should be true.
I am trying very hard to understand you Romans. You say that you represent the majority, but I know very few Christians like you. I don't mean that as a criticism. It is just that you seem far removed from my experience and understanding. That is one of the reasons why I come back again and again to this forum: to get to understand the religious mosaic better. Be well, my friend.
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Plotinus
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Eye for an Eye. |
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| trettep wrote: |
Yes Eye for an Eye is valid but must be understood in a spiritual manner. For example, if we kill we must be killed. And believe it or not we are all responsible for the death of Jesus. But the life we lose is our own. This meaning the life that is OURS. Not His. In fact, we must LOSE our lives and obtain His to live ever-more. This is the perspective for which you must understand eye-for-eye. Man looks at eye-for-eye as if he has a basis to exact revenge which is not what it means at all. Anyone that exacts revenge robs from God for Vengence is His.
Paul |
Thank you Paul for these lovely words.
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Romans
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| Plotinus wrote: | | Hmmmmmm. I'm not sure I understand your argument. Why should I care whether I am in a minority? Are you arguing that the majority--among Christians let us say--must be correct? I see no logical reason why that should be true |
The majority agree with God's word that if one commits a sin against another there are consequences for doing so. It isn't my fault you do not understand what God's word says on the matter.
Romans 13
Submission to the Authorities
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. |
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eleven
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Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Romans wrote: | God doesn't change he is the same yesterday and tomorrow.
ALL scripture is for us today especially the NEW TESTAMENT. If one can back up the Old Testament with the new than it IS for us today...nothing has changed.
The fact that Paul emphasized obedience to our Government and it's authority is good enough for me...are you now saying we shouldn't pay taxes either?
Or that we shouldn't do everything else God through Paul said in Romans 13??? |
Uhh, sorry Roman , but this in not true.
There are several instances in the Bible where the Israelites defied government , and were blessed by God for doing so.
Exodus 1
15And the king of Egypt spake to the Hebrew midwives, of which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah:
16And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.
17But the midwives feared God, and did not as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the men children alive.
18And the king of Egypt called for the midwives, and said unto them, Why have ye done this thing, and have saved the men children alive?
19And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.
20Therefore God dealt well with the midwives: and the people multiplied, and waxed very mighty.
21And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them houses.
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