New Paradigm

Virbate · Rattlesnake Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 436

Hi. I'm Vibrate. But my account stopped working suddenly, so I had to start this one.
I've been thinking about this problem of stiff-necked thinking. Stiff-necked thinking is stiff in every direction. When I try to go left the stiff neck is stiffly resisting toward the right. When I try to go right, the stiff neck resists toward the left. Wherever progress wants to go, the stiff neck resists, because that's its nature. It's stiff. So it resists.
We live in a world where the false, carnal system is the popular anthem. And being a lie, it takes everything that is true and good, and creates a lie, an illusion that imitates the true and good thing. So our God given ability to form political organizations, economic institutions, commercial enterprises, and military authorities have all been usurped, twisted and imitated by those who act according to the false system.
Now, when I talk about the true system, people think I'm talking about the false system. They can't imagine that these natural things that God created could actually be good, because they have never seen them used in the good, natural way that God made them to be used.
It's just being stiff-necked. If someone sticks you up and enslaves you with a gun, then they fall asleep and put it down, won't you pick up the gun so that you'll have power over them? I'm not saying you have to enslave them, or even shoot them. Just pick up the gun! But as we all know, the animal psychology is to actually fear the gun, imputing power to it.
In the same way, people impute power to all these natural things that God has created - political organization, economics, etc. And they believe falsely that these things must be inherently evil. Now we have a nation of scattered believers who refuse to unite because of fear of the tools of unity. And the evil ones are more than happy to use these tools. Remember what Jesus said, "children of the world are wiser in the ways of the world than the children of the kingdom". But it is time for us to wise up and listen to the words of God. We don't need to keep dying for want of knowledge.

45degreeN · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:27 am Post subject:

Remember "give unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's" Matthew 22:21. Well according to your thesis there is nothing at all to give unto Caesar making this whole statement of Jesus nonsensical.

Your whole thesis seems to boil down to this. All shadows are "false." Well there is no shadow without the light of God's will shining down and the outlines of the shadow while they are not the "real thing" they do in fact show us the "real thing". The sad fact is that is all we have in this world shadows to deal regardless of what Plato might have said 3000 years ago
(read the following link about Plato's cave) faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm

I would also question the idea that David's kingdom was a false illusion?
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Virbate · Rattlesnake Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 436

Well Caesar has been defeated now by the word of God, as far as earthly matters. He had given everything back to God, or lost his grip to God.
Note that every kingdom on earth today has to claim that it rules in the name of God - usually they claim to be based on freedom, and equal rights, and the will of the people, which are divine principles.
So Jesus' statement about Caesar is sensible, it is not nonsense. Simply the notion that Caesar works on his own is nonsense, or that he works outside God's word.
Today the only way that there is corruption in Govt, and in nations is when they literally steal it (in human terms). They have to lie, and hide what they are doing, and they live in fear that the people will find out. Why do you think they are so secretive? How could a democratically elected regime have a legit reason to be secretive. Do you really fall for that "national security" nonsense? National security for a free nation comes from highlighting and publishing the truth, not from secrecy.

45degreeN · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:

God rules this world through people and with or without them being good. In fact God uses people to extend His love to others it is not merely a spiritual thing.
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Virbate · Rattlesnake Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 436

Kind of like the switch to metric. If you're used to thinking in terms of miles it takes calculations to figure out how many kilometers, but if you practice thinking in kilometers, then it takes calculations to get you back to miles.

It's all about your frame of reference. Are in in the world but not of the world, or are you of the world? Do you think of yourself as the citizen of some secular system, or the member of several systems? Do you speak in that way, and think in that way, so that people around you will learn to identify you that way? How do you identify yourself?

Actually whenever people create secular governments, they do so either in competition to God's government, or under the auspices of His government. Which one is it where you live, and how do you identify yourself in terms of that man-made system? Do you think in terms of their currency, or God's currency? When you handle their currency do you feel like if this is the way reality works, or do you think to yourself "look at this currency these guys actually live by"?

The question is, what side are you on?