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lone-traveler Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 6365 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi Zathrus,
And even more, to challenge the practice of judging others who do celebrate them, on the basis that they're supposedly partaking in or at least paying homage to pagan revelries and denying Christ.
The best way to challenge is to set a good example. You don't need to judge others and what they do. You do what you know is right and good. Let them judge you and ask you why you do what you do or don't do, then you can witness the truth of these things to them.
And then maybe they will learn and turn from the pagan revelries and come to the light. If not, then they will just keep wandering in their ignorance. But at least you would have given them the opportunity to learn "something new".
hugs
lone _________________ Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. |
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Dust Big Lion

Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 959 Location: All over the western U.S.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: Paganized Christianity or the gospel changing the world? |
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Paganized Christianity or the gospel changing the world?
Wisdom SHOUTS!
Zathrus, good job. A discussion need not even ensue, as your heading contains all that needs to be contemplated. _________________ The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. |
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Zathrus King Kong

Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 2274 Location: WI USA
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Zathrus wrote: | | My purpose was to challenge not celebrating these holidays and other celebrations at all for the reason that they are "sanitized" pagan festivals. And even more, to challenge the practice of judging others who do celebrate them, on the basis that they're supposedly partaking in or at least paying homage to pagan revelries and denying Christ. | ...and to ask whether those who believe Satanic influences are infiltrating the church are looking at it incorrectly. _________________ Establishing the law by receiving the righteousness which is by faith, without the deeds of the law!
2 Cor 3 "11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious."
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Roster Big Goldfish
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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45,
I believe that lying is more important than the roots of some holiday. We can justify lying but not a fun holiday that usually consists of love and joy where families take time out of the year to join each other and be merry. Humans create new sin by making man made laws by their foolish interpretations. |
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2673 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well lying would keep everything the same and telling the truth would return life back to God's plan for our calendar and let me get this straight you would prefer the lies? I just dont get it... _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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Roster Big Goldfish
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| 45, No I am not for the lies, but am for celebrating the holiday's that might have other roots besides Christianity. If I celebrate easter of christmas, or any other holiday, I will simply tell my kid the truth about santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, that they don't exists, but will still give presents and none of the holidays will represent any religious deity. It will only be for pleasure and will represent nothing in my heart but fun and time with family. |
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Zathrus King Kong

Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 2274 Location: WI USA
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Roster wrote: | | ...I will simply tell my kid the truth about santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, that they don't exists, ... | Wait, what's this??!!! The tooth fairy's not real?
It's all a lie???!!! _________________ Establishing the law by receiving the righteousness which is by faith, without the deeds of the law!
2 Cor 3 "11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious."
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2673 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Roster, I certainly dont have anything against having a little fun partying. But why abandon the celebrations that God Himself instituted? You'll miss out on an opportunity to tell the kids about God and His plan of salvation. Granted those feast days (today at least) are rather muted and hardly the same partying times as the worldly ones, but there is value in explaining them to the kids. _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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Roster Big Goldfish
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: |
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45, What celebrations did God institute? God did not institute a holiday to celebrate such as Christmas, maybe keep the sabbath but he never instituted Christmans. Man instituted Christmas.
If we can't celebrate holiday's that have pagan roots, then Christians should also watch what they say when using everyday phrase's such as: abara cadabara, walah, allakhazam since these words have a rooting in witchcraft or paganism. |
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Silver Surfer Emperor of the World

Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 3255 Location: Hayden, Idaho, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Paganized Christianity or the gospel changing the world? |
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The vast majority of Modern Christianity, still holds to pagan religious beliefs:
#1.) Sunday worship services.
#2.) Belief that man has an Immortal soul.
These 2, satan wants the world to embrace.
As it is witten: 'satan deceives the whole world', (Revlation 12:9). _________________ Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. |
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Silver Surfer Emperor of the World

Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 3255 Location: Hayden, Idaho, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Paganized Christianity or the gospel changing the world? |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | The vast majority of Modern Christianity, still holds to pagan religious beliefs:
#1.) Sunday worship services.
#2.) Belief that man has an Immortal soul.
These 2, satan wants the world to embrace.
As it is witten: 'satan deceives the whole world', (Revlation 12:9). |
I forgot to add this pertainig to the Gospel message......
The Gospel message is God bring men/women back into keeping ALL God's commandments, thru the power which Jesus Christ freely bestows, on each and any person who wants it, that power is called GRACE. _________________ Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. |
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