Who did God Pr-Create with?

Niall · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Who did God Pr-Create with?

begotten:(of offspring) generated by pro creation; "naturally begotten child

The NT teaches that Yeshua was the only begotten son of God.

The OT teaches one something much different.

Genesis 2: That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 4: There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Note the plurality of the word sons in the references above. Also god was translated from Elohim, which is actually a plural form for Gods.

1) Who is god's wife?
2) How many sons did god really have?
3) Why was the plural form of Elohim originally used?
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Ana · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:01 am Post subject:

Maybe part of Elohim was female.
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Niall · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:13 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:52 am Post subject:

Is there a necessity for them to be created 'naturally' like us ordinary humans? If God created Adam out of the dust of the Earth, then why not all those other creations from something similar or even nothing at all.

God is all powerful and to limit Him to such anthropomorphic ways is just silly and fruitless.
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Niall · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:36 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:45 am Post subject:

God specifically said He is spirit, not flesh and blood so how can a spirit procreate the same way as flesh and blood? Why would He need to? As the almighty He can do whatever He wants

This reminds me of the Mormon beliefs about the source of Jesus.

Images can be of other things instead of our physical features.
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Niall · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject:

It is one of those times when the Bible is intentionally vague. The Mormons take this very literally and have a flesh and "bone" God without blood I guess, but still a physical form. Their belief is that we are to have "spirit" children and populate our own planet.

My take is that God operates on promises and therefore our ability to trust Him is the main operative quality. It would be our 'hearts and minds' which are made in the image of God which might just be the best translation of our "spirit." We cannot 'see' our hearts and minds though.

It remains to be discerned whether or not there is such a thing as a male and female 'spirit' our hearts and minds can all be made in the same image.(of God). {Paul's use of nous and psyche are interchangeable so I just include both. }
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